State persecution in UK

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Possibly because niether truth, nor reality, has changed yet?

I wouldn't be surprised that the government is doing that to you as they might want to be like an evil country that the United States is as they have a "Special Relationship," or some how some spies for a country with or that had a powerful spy organization. I call the United States evil, as they can get away with things that other countries can't get away with. An example of that are medical experiments conducted without the populations knowledge or consent. They did things that the Japanese and Germans did and didn't even compensate or tell the victims. I also call the United States evil as the government can get away with abusing it's citizens, and making it harder for people to get evidence and a fair trial against them.

I was trying to tell you that you were repeating yourself for no reason and all you do is go in to sarcastic defence mode. Also you completely failed to stay with the issue at hand.

For a 50+ year old you don't act your age, nor are you very wise. May be it is because age and wisdom don't go together like you want to think.
Now please try and weakly justify your ungracious pettiness or actually stay with the argument.

The only difference between the UK and the USA is that the UK have been doing it far longer and are far better at getting away with it I am afraid. Also, as far as I can see the UK is slightly to the right of the USA politically for the past few years in real terms.

But still, it is never random, there would be no sense in that.

As I said at the start it's the state, the authorities, who are doing this to us. Also everyone we have dealings with for any reason takes part in it, or at least turns a blind eye. I KNOW OF NO REASON why this is being done. Because of the continual disruption to my life I have thought of little else for many years, but unless someone tells me what's going on I can't see what I can do to resolve it. I am not mad, as confirmed by the spychiatrist I saw about AS. She didn't test me for Asperger but for psychosis and childhood trauma, and found no evidence of either.

Let's approach it from another angle then. If you cannot think of anything linked to specific people within your family, what about places?

Have you lived in the same place since this began?

Is the house owner occupied?

Is there anything nearby that could be of a remotely sensitive nature? Military bases, airfields, transmitter masts, coastline...those are just a few possibilities I can think of...I am sure you can think of more.

Of course what I am forgetting to mention is the most important thing...if it really is that bad it might be worth considering moving your whole family out of the UK. Not easy but it would end the persecution for good, as long as it is state sponsored...(if it is corporate in origin it might just follow you).

Well given that psychoses are something that Standard Humans are good at diagnosing I actually believe you. When I was a kid I was being pushed around by a lot of people in school. You may not have realized yet by Standard Humans tend to have this predilicition to ignore the pain of or torture gleefully people who are different.

This isn't to say there are people actively ignoring you, they just can't imagine how to engage with it or think of it as a 'just so' fallacy. To put it plainly pianorak, people are a**holes. And it can seem concerted because concerted is the only way that we would actually seem to do such a thing. But it just 'happens' with them. It's a combination of distrust of outsiders and social inertia.

You're right about all of that. The UK and the USA are both very experienced in covering up such practices, and those of us within the country are probably the last to hear about them.

No. No sensitivities. And these things have happened to us in England, Scotland and Wales. Last suggestion is a good one, unless of course we were to get the Princess Di treatment!









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If you have moved around a lot and nothing has got any better I think it is time to seriously consider it - after all, life is too short for that crap.

The only remaining realistic possibility I can think of is that at some time in the past a family member got flagged on some computer somewhere in error and that everything that has happened since is an unmonitored reaction to that flagging? But if that is the case, in real terms I have no idea how you would sort that out. It would be like trying to repair something while it is still lost, if that makes sense?

*facepalms* Conspiracy theorists' singulairy approaching.

If you don't want the Princess Di treatment don't go to France, as they seem do design things to kill people like that underpass that killed her. I assumed that there was a Frenchman behind the design of the Bobsled track at the 2010 Winter Olympics as that is another instance of exposed columns killing someone.

Do we really need to let this dicussion be dominated by copnspiracy theories?

Read this article, "Beware the lone wolf radicals", from 'New Scientist', 4th September 2011, which demonstrates their attitude to people like us here on WP.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... icals.html

btw Asperger Syndrome is not a medical condition.

Sorry...I wasn't happy with the term myself but I couldn't think of a better one in context at the time (still can't actually), as long as you get the idea.

Even so, there is no way that the manpower and resources exist to actively identify, stalk and persecute anyone who might have difficulty connecting socially and emotionally with "other radicals" (always assuming that you are a radical yourself - which I see no reason to suppose to be the case) that is just not realistic...and even if it were, that type of persecutory approach would only be inclined to push such a person over the edge into the kind of activity the article describes, and I cannot imagine any purpose that would serve.

I agree with you that this must use huge resources, and run the risk of pushing people into the very activities it purports to discourage, but I think you underestimate the power of fear demonstrated by that scientist.