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Dalurker wrote:

Genetic lottery, IS all it was.......along with environmental conditions THAT trained the TALENT or left it wild and untamed.

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There is a very thin line between profound ability and profound disability; it's like a blink of an eye. As a matter of fact, IF you were privy to the private lives of the individuals THAT you envy; you would be surprised at many of the limitations THAT they have compared to the general population. They simple don't discuss all their personal affairs.

For the most part, in my humble opinion, nature works the way it does for a reason. Trade offs. Inherent limitations and weaknesses to prevent something like this( apply it to any given situation):



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From my personal perspective, I think this is so true.

Simple designs are more likely to be robust. Complex designs are more prone to failures, because there's more that can go wrong. That's the way I've always thought of it.

eventualy highly gifted savants who endlessly complain about people calling autism a disease will have there benifits and services taken away because someone finaly takes you seriously.
likewise to those more severe on the spectrum who endlessly complain about all the (so called)high functioning snobs bragging about there acomplishments.if there were not more sucessfull autistics,you would then complain"where are our heroes and rolemodels"
WATCH OUT WHAT YOU WISH FOR"?
lets end all the childish bickering

I heard this statement made by Daniel Tammett and it stayed with me.

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vermontsavant, you summed it up pretty, well.

Unfortunately, those residing in the middle get forgotten, left to float aimlessly between the sea of Autistic and non-Autistic rhetoric; hoping to avoid the social and political tsunamis THAT are destined to leave them washed a shore.

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You could be a Nobel Prize winning physicists without the ability to tie your shoes, something most typically developing six year olds can do. So, with this profound ability exist a profound disability, a light whisper or a subtle tap, that reminds you of 'what' could have been..........

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Also how would a cure make people with aspergers 'share' their abilities....how do you share abilities that's like saying I could trade boobs with my sister or something.[/quote]

[/quote]They would have to know what mechanisms are necessary for one to have particular abilities. They may have to know what within the brain causes the very high-functioning/many aspies to have the aptitudes they do. Then they would have to make those same conditions occur in the brains of those who otherwise would be lower-functioning. It may involve genetic modifications. It wouldn't be like a trade really. I would consider it a redistribution, so that all can have equal amounts of ability. So that all of this talent/aptitude is had by all.

So let me get this straight you want scientists to study the brains of people with aspergers that have certain skills....try to find out what causes this and then adjust your brain accordingly. But what you think people are just born with a skill and don't have to work at it at all to perfect it?


and I can't figure out how to quote that last part right and am giving up on it.

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good response,i respect your viewpoint

Yeah, they should do something like that. Not that many skills are born with. It's the capacity to learn them that's basically born with. The aptitudes determine the speed one can complete a task or learn things. The higher the potential, the easier and faster it is to learn a skill. With those of some high levels of aptitude, there isn't much work involved. It comes "natural" to them.

So you essentially want everyone to have the exact same strengths and weaknesses......well if you would like them to tamper with your brain in an attempt to make everything easy for you go for it, but don't expect everyone to want such tampering.

I did not pick up a book about my primary special interest until 6 months after i volunteered. Everything i done was by________you fill in the blank. I taught for many years by________you fill in the blank.



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I don't get it.

me neither,but then again i dont get this whole website

I did some volunteer work that required me to participate in some 'activities'. I could perform those 'activities' without having 'any' prior exposure to them. I have a feeling I may have surprised a few people.
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I believe in the heterogeneity of Autists influenced by both genetics and environment, as much as, I believe in the heterogeneity of non-Autists influenced by both genetics and environment.

When science finds away to alter the brains of cognitive delayed non-Autistics, inorder to; 'share' the advantages of the typically developing brains of their non-Autistic brethren then research will have advanced enough to offer the Autist a choice.

IF science wants to 'tap' into certain abilities, there are more than enough genius level non-autist in which to study. Once science is able to endow the atypically developing non-autistic(who wants them) with above average or genius level ability through the latest technological innovations then Autist may have a choice.


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