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This is like one of those things innit? What do you call them now? I can't remember, but it's like one of those vicious circle thingies.

I wouldn't say that it is a vicious circle... before the age (and I have not looked up the number on this) that a person's personality has fully formed, it is entirely possible that a cure for Autistic Spectrum Disorders would be very effective...

But once we're adults, the cognitive dissonant events, psychological trauma, experiences and reasoning have pretty much been set in place. Unless those additional neural pathways can be rewritten, or broken to allow for a new cognitive set to be trained, I don't think that it would wield any results beyond the basic symptoms of autism...

That being said... the work that would be required to break those pathways, or rewrite them would be extensive... and I have enough braind damage from physical trauma, and severe dissonant events that I, personally, would not want to take the risk of being reduced from a brilliantly intellectual onion to a rather dim witted radish.

Only if you define "damaged in the head" as "having hobbies other than crying about how broken you are".

The thing is, many companies seek for solutions of the illness autism. But what they mean is genocide. Trisonometry (Mongolism) hasnt been cured, but the people simply were marked by their DNA and wiped out like you wipe out bugs and cockroaches.

I am not against a "cure", but I want it really to be that, somethings that helps the affected people, not somethings that helps others. I am afraid, that when there is a cure, that even people with only minor affection, will be "cured" by that, just like lots of kids with minor ADHS gets treated with Ritalin, because its easier for their parents. I am afraid that people think more and more, that a kid is an ownage, that they can choose like a car, and fix it, if its not the kind they ordered.

So nothing against a cure, as long as its really a cure, and as long as only professional people or grown up autist themselves, are allowed to order it.

I can't be cured.

I'm too damaged in the head already.

It seems to me that these kind of thing provoke strong emotion.

If autism is a disease I think we need to challenge the medical establishment.

QFT.
completely agreed,nothing else to add but wish we had a like button so we woudnt have to post when we have nothing to add but at the same time we completely agree with a posters views.

First off, yet another person misuses the word disease; diseases are germs that cause physical illnesses.
Second off, there is no cure.
Third off, if you wish to help the low functioning, the solution is not to make them neurotypicals, but to improve them to become high functioning autistics.

I feel it necessary to point out the irony in your statement.

Diseases are not germs that cause physical illness...

The medical definition of a disease is "an impairment of the normal state of the living animal or plant body or one of its parts that interrupts or modifies the performance of the vital functions, is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms, and is a response to environmental factors (as malnutrition, industrial hazards, or climate), to specific infective agents (as worms, bacteria, or viruses), to inherent defects of the organism (as genetic anomalies), or to combinations of these factors"

Boiled down to simple terms... A disease is a malfunction of the body that messes up functioning; has a specific set of symptoms; and can be tracked down to environmental factors, genetics, foreign life forms in the body or any combination of those three...

Before you correct someone on the usage of a word, it is best to be familiar with the proper use of said word.

Which of the vital functions does autism interrupt or modify?

The problem with that definition is that it is incredibly general, in fact it is so general that I believe that it is almost useless. Also the problem is that what is normal is also open to interpretation.

By that definition we could easily define death as a disease. So could being unconscious.

Also autism could be part of the normal (in a statistical sense) variation in brain organisation. I think that depending on how severe the autism is it can be debilitating or worse. It also can give the person some advantages.

I prefer the using the word syndrome as this means just a collection of signs or symptoms which have been given a name.

PS I love your care and feeding of your aspie series.

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you know what... screw it... never mind... I give up - you're all right... we don't have a disease...

BUT in that case, it needs to be removed from medical texts and the DSM (or european equivalent)... since there is nothing wrong with us...

we don't need
accommodations
understanding
treatment plans
assistance
alone time
services
advocacy

Further... if there is nothing wrong with us... we have no right to suggest awareness... we're not diseased... we're just weird... but since there is nothing wrong with us... we have no right to ask anything special for our condition... because we are just like they are... that means stares, comments, and other responses to odd behavior are completely acceptable... because there is nothing wrong with us...

It's good for the soul... it's good for the self esteem... but it is bad for the cause... and it is wrong...

but I am not going to attempt to make people who choose to ignore fact try to see fact...

Please don't get the s**ts, we do all love you, but some of us just disagree on the use of a word.

The fun part of english is that there are generally lots of words to describe one thing, and the differences can be small, and the emotional context can be quite different. I think you will find that english has the most euphemisms and weasel words.

We don't describe conditions like blindness and deafness as diseases, although they can both be caused by various diseases.

It seems to be generally accepted that disease can cause disabilities, but that not all disabilities are caused by disease.

I think that the word disease has the wrong connotations. Describing aspergers syndrome as a condition or disability seems far more fruitful.

We can still use help, assistance etc as we do not conform to the norms of the vast majority of people, and can have sensory and other issues.

But if we can't argue about such issues here, where can we?

I know... but it boils down to the ramifications of pride... and I'm done with this topic... since there is nothing wrong with us, this entire section of the board is meaningless