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Brittany2907
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25 Mar 2008, 5:51 pm

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Both of us have something to bring to the table.


I agree.

I have read somewhere before that people with ASD think of the things to improve technology/medicine etc....where as NTs have the organisational abilities to test these ideas.

I don't know if this is true or not...but I do have to say that without NTs, a lot of things would not get done.


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25 Mar 2008, 9:13 pm

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I was thnking: If everyone on earth was aspie, would the world be a better place?


I tend to view the world as moving towards one that Autism spectrum people find more normal. For example Aspies aren't as bothered by being separated from nature. They have a better handle on technology and are capable of doing far more jobs in the information age. You are starting to see this everywhere as many of the really successful people as Aspies.

As for a world without NTs there would be issues with finding people to do the repetitive boring jobs but probably those will be eliminated in the next 50 to 100 years. A large number of them have been eliminated in Japan. It can be done world wide.

On the good side there would be far less lieing and misrepresentation without NTs. Emotional arguments would basically disappear and be replaced by logical arguments. Technology would move faster. And the biggest topic of discussion could move from the weather to something more interesting like worm hole physics, quantum mechanics or something that matters. Advertising would tend to move from emotional to logical. Research would have less bias. Elections would be based on real facts rather than slogans.

I find it interestingly this was first pointed out to me by a Neurotypical with an Aspie child. She was doing all kinds of research and the conclusion she came to was "Aspies make better people." But we all know NTs are biast right? :)



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25 Mar 2008, 9:19 pm

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Emotional arguments would basically disappear and be replaced by logical arguments.


Uh, have you been to the politics section in WP yet?



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25 Mar 2008, 10:28 pm

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As for a world without NTs there would be issues with finding people to do the repetitive boring jobs but probably those will be eliminated in the next 50 to 100 years. :)


There would no pushy salespeople to sell over priced rubbish ....


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26 Mar 2008, 4:16 am

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For example Aspies aren't as bothered by being separated from nature.


I am very bothered at being separated from nature. And Im sure a lot of aspies spend time outdoors, photographing, or being involved with animals. I dont think that statement is true.


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26 Mar 2008, 8:07 am

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I am very bothered at being separated from nature. And Im sure a lot of aspies spend time outdoors, photographing, or being involved with animals. I dont think that statement is true.


I find NTs constantly talking about nature. An NT from my experience will be far faster to put a plant in a room. Or demand that the room be painted some other colour than "builder's white". Personally I can appreciate nature. But often it is more the peace of being alone. Or the comfort of dealing with an animal with semi predictable responses.



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26 Mar 2008, 8:35 am

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Programmer wrote:
Emotional arguments would basically disappear and be replaced by logical arguments.


Uh, have you been to the politics section in WP yet?


My experience has been that the more emotional NTs use emotional arguments almost exclusively. First we decide what the conclusion is and then we try to justify it. Their usual response to facts contravening their argument is to get mad. The better NTs may try mocking or attacking the source.

Example <Happenned to me in the car two days ago>:
NT: I am impressed that a Grand Master Chess player beat a computer.

Aspie: Have you read about the big blue project? Most Grand Masters can beat a computer easily.

NT: Complains you are insulting their intelligence by pointing out they are wrong.

Aspie thinks: WTF? They are wrong. Don't they care?

Or the better one someone said to me:
NT: I don't like talking to you because I can find no problem with your arguments but I know you are wrong.

Aspie: ?

Or another:
NT: All people against global warming are paid for by oil interests.

Aspie: Did you know Al Gore gets paid $125,000 for each presentation of it is an inconvenient truth. He has a vested interest in mis portraying the facts as well.

NT: You are stupid.

Aspie thinks: No just less biast and still undecided.

Or another:
Aspie: Did you know CO2 is almost a trace element?

NT: What right wing conspiracy web site did you get that from?

Aspie: The IPCC report lists concentrations at 381 ppm.

NT: They are a some conspiracy site.

Aspie: IPCC stands for the International Panel on Climate Change.

NT: Gets mad.



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26 Mar 2008, 9:15 am

Programmer wrote:
I find NTs constantly talking about nature. An NT from my experience will be far faster to put a plant in a room. Or demand that the room be painted some other colour than "builder's white". Personally I can appreciate nature. But often it is more the peace of being alone. Or the comfort of dealing with an animal with semi predictable responses.


There are many aspies who have a great appreciation of the outdoors and nature. I spent much of my childhood outside, climbing things, in trees, or looking for insects.

I dont think anyone can generalise about whether AS people appreciate nature or not. We are all different, some aspies love the wilderness, not just to be alone, but to be amongst trees and the wind, plants and animals.


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26 Mar 2008, 10:13 am

Nature is a touchy subject for me; i like it but im just as able to sacrifice it to human progress.



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26 Mar 2008, 12:45 pm

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Nature is a touchy subject for me; i like it but im just as able to sacrifice it to human progress.


I sacrifice nature regularly. I have a black thumb and am constantly surprised when the plant DIDN'T die.

Kidding aside, I love camping, but I'm just as anal with my campsite as I am with my kitchen. I prefer wilderness camping (no people). It's not "nature" I have a problem with, it's other people in nature.



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28 Sep 2010, 10:36 am

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Yeah, just a thought I had during lunch, it seems like we aspies get along far better with each other than NTs do with each other, plus we have many special abilities NTs do not have. The only reason we have so much trouble is because NTs don't like us being different, besides the sensory stuff. I was thnking: If everyone on earth was aspie, would the world be a better place?


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Cure Neurotypicals. You've identified an emerging business market but it's difficult to deal with neurotypicals who subscribe to the logic of I'm ok, You're ok (I'm ok as a neurotypical, All neurotypicals are ok).

Neurotypicals are bombarded with lots of cures for them, perhaps the latest being pomegranate juice.



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05 Nov 2010, 4:07 pm

nah i dont think we should cure them, without them, who will i mock when there is no one else to mock



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05 Nov 2010, 6:39 pm

I think that EVERYONE, autistic or not, should try to improve himself or herself, especially through education.



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05 Nov 2010, 8:18 pm

I reckon if many of these NTs lost several traits of their "Neurotypical Syndrome", then I'd find them more palatable. In particular, the traits where they have the innate need to have herd mentality and ostracize or bully people who are different from them.



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06 Nov 2010, 3:20 am

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Cure them? No way, nothing would ever get done. They are the ones with all the organisational skills.

as if!
I'm more organised than most neurotypicals I know



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06 Nov 2010, 4:49 am

How are we gonna enslave NTs if we cure them :D
and how do you propose to cure them, genocide,some sort of miracle cure that removes neurotypical syndrome,putting mercury into vaccines?