I am opposed to those calling for Michael Savage's sacking

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Does the reaction to Michael Savage's comments have any similarity with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton's idiocy with regard to people saying the "n" word?
Yes 42%  42%  [ 8 ]
No 58%  58%  [ 11 ]
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04 Sep 2008, 9:29 am

Warsie wrote:
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those people flying into the trade centers had there own special bible to! (if you believe it wasnt an inside job).


even though it was..... 8)


TOTALLY AGREES WITH WARSIE pick up a copy of "loose change!


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04 Sep 2008, 9:34 am

[quote="graemephillips"]The sponsors do indeed have the right to pull sponsorship, but I don't support the idea of punishing someone for being intolerant. If Michael Savage wishes to reject the cause of liberalism, that is his life choice.

if michael savage life choice was to deny or reject the cause of liberalism, I wouldnt have a problem.....It's his rejection of intellect, brain, heart, and compasion I take issue with.


IM NOT SURE WHOS POST THIS IS BUT ITS NOT MINE I DID NOT POST THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>SO WHOEVER DID,,,,POST ON YOUR OWN DAMNED NAME YOU BUTTPLUG(S)! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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04 Sep 2008, 4:18 pm

After hearing on the radio so many times women being called c*nts (with bleeps but obvious what the man was saying), b*****s with no threats of the radio talk host being fired, I've come to the conclusion that people have exclusive ideas of what hate speech is allowed and not.

People are still ignorant over autism. If anything Michael proves that.

Should he be fired? No. He has the right to voice his ignorant statements just as others have the rights to send in their rebuttals.

People who are trying to control how people think seem rather hypocritical.

Just like the OP mentioned Jesse Jackson and all of these leaders of movements and how bigoted they themselves are.

It's perfectly fine to bash white people. Nobody will lose their job over it. It's not considered a hate crime if a white person is beaten up.

Nobody will lose their job over offensive terms thrown at females.



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05 Sep 2008, 4:31 pm

I understand and respect the position you have taken in regards to freedom of speech, graemephillips, but I must politely disagree with you. I am a strong advocate of protecting the right of free speech. However, in my view, free speech stops being a right and becomes an abuse of power when it infringes upon the rights of others.

It would be ideal to believe in an absolute freedom of speech-- or, one might think. But realistically, there are limits, certain situations where that freedom can be taken too far. One prime example that always comes up is yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater when there is none. When you place others in jeopardy, you aren't exercising free speech-- you're abusing it.

Since you seem to be supporting much of your argument with Christian theology, let's take the Ten Commendments as well. According to the word of God Himself, human beings do not have the right to kill each other, or to steal, or to bear false witness against one another. Each of these examples describes a behaviour that would infringe upon the welfare, happiness and rights of others. This is why we have laws in the first place-- to keep us respectful of each other's rights.

Let's say, hypothetically, that a radio or television personality begins rallying people in support of a cause that favors the genocide of a particular group based on ethnicity (or religion, or political affiliation, or whatever). This is not just intolerance; the purpose of this rhetoric is, without question, to endorse mass murder. Is that protected free speech?

At issue here is the idea that free speech in public is not the same as free speech in private. Mr. Savage is fully entitled to his opinions on autism, even if they are intolerant; nobody can rightfully take that away from him. But to go on air and broadcast his intolerance to the greater public, and spread potentially harmful misinformation, is an entirely different matter because of the potential it has to infringe on others' rights. It is irresponsible of him as a broadcaster, even if he is an ideological shock jock. Make no mistake-- I'm equally fed up with the amount of ridiculous political correctness in our society. But this particular instance was not just political incorrectness-- it was a personal attack on the autistic community.

I don't hate Mr. Savage, and I don't condone hate speech against him. I just believe that the people who are given the privilege of being able to reach people through radio or television ought to exercise some tact and common sense in what they say, and realize that with their privilege comes the responsibility to use it ethically. Mr. Savage has demonstrated a disregard for this responsibility which I personally feel warrants him having the privilege stripped from him.



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05 Sep 2008, 4:55 pm

Sacking Savage and Banning Best topic

Eliminating these two idiots will not stop stupidity. But it is up to us to call the Savage beast a Wiener man and John Best the Worst, and taken with a grain of salt, to say the least.

Yep. Wiener and Worst, or Wurst. sounds like tainted meat!! :lol: :P


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11 Sep 2008, 11:13 pm

Savage was just saying that the way doctors are so quick to dianose autism is a scam. Not autism that autism itself is a scam. His words got taken out of context.



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12 Sep 2008, 1:07 am

Jaysonlee4 wrote:
your bible (that has been changed repeatedly throughout history)

Evidence please?


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14 Sep 2008, 4:21 am

I agree with Chevand.

The purpose of the media has always been [but not exclusively] to spread lies or manipulate the emotions and actions of the people.

Savage was being highly emotive in his style, and I don't believe that they were poorly chosen words, I think it was deliberate. He would have reached through to many people and their opinions would have changed for the worse, and intolerance to autistics should not be tolerated in itself. I do not implore for the spread of ignorance.

The media is being abused as a political and emotive tool. Savage should not be allowed to preach his extremist views to the people. He should be fired from his position as messiah.



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17 Sep 2008, 6:54 pm

Jaysonlee4 wrote:
graemephillips wrote:
The sponsors do indeed have the right to pull sponsorship, but I don't support the idea of punishing someone for being intolerant. If Michael Savage wishes to reject the cause of liberalism, that is his life choice.

if michael savage life choice was to deny or reject the cause of liberalism, I wouldnt have a problem.....It's his rejection of intellect, brain, heart, and compasion I take issue with.


IM NOT SURE WHOS POST THIS IS BUT ITS NOT MINE I DID NOT POST THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>SO WHOEVER DID,,,,POST ON YOUR OWN DAMNED NAME YOU BUTTPLUG(S)! !! !! !! !! !! !!


Well, that's a new one I haven't heard before... :lol:


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23 Jul 2011, 11:02 am

No it doesn't have anything to do with that. Race is an issue that's in the past. And for anyone to compare our anger toward him to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's idoicy is a f*****g farce and blow to the autism thing. It's just an excuse to slander our name. Oh people, they should censor his sorry ass. I'm asperger, and I get made fun of it. They should censor him, and give him a thug beatdown. There's should be violence against him. I would be all for it
I don't care if it would incite fear, his comments are effed up. And already slander us as it is. They should censor him. I'm not with that MLK forgive nonsense.



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23 Jul 2011, 1:48 pm

I had to look up what Michael Savage said since I hadn't heard of this before.

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[Autism is a] fraud, a racket. ... I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."


Typical stunningly ignorant horses**t from a man who built a career on spouting stunningly ignorant horses**t. Get this harmful crap off the air.



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23 Jul 2011, 5:41 pm

graemephillips wrote:
I don't believe freedom of speech should mean "freedom, so long as you don't say anything in opposition to some whingeing minorities".


If you replace whingeing minorities with offended people your argument's attempt at holding water turns from a bucket with a hole in it in to a tube. Try making less opinion-loaded comments.