Denver Post article blames autism for son's murder
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This only shows how little education ppl receive. Parents with autistic children NEED help, there's no other way of saying it.
I'm not condoning this father's behaviour, only that he was misinformed in the worst meaning of the word.
Parents need to be taught how their children are, why they behave the way they do, what help they need, and the potential they have for a reasonably good life as an adult.
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Here when people kill NT kids (which happens so often it breaks my heart) the resons given are the same as the ons given in that article. Because no one told them just how hard it was to be a parent. And theres not enough support when they find out.
The man who murdered his son seems like he was insane. Like the women who kill their children because they believe they will go to hell otherwise, he took one swift decisive action to sove the percieved problem. The true monsters are the ones who end up beating their children to death - They truly do not mean to kill their children, just to punish them and cause them pain.
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OK. Again I'm confused. There are one or two people on this thread that appear to have read the article concerned. The rest seem to be making it up as they go along.
I suppose I could always read it all a third time, to see if the article has changed, but somehow I don't think I will, or that it has.
The father appears to have cracked under the pressure of coping with a son he could not understand. That makes him a murderer. If he had received more support, and better information, maybe he could have accepted his son, and that individual would still be alive.
What happened was a tragedy. Is was reported.
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I suppose I could always read it all a third time, to see if the article has changed, but somehow I don't think I will, or that it has.
The father appears to have cracked under the pressure of coping with a son he could not understand. That makes him a murderer. If he had received more support, and better information, maybe he could have accepted his son, and that individual would still be alive.
What happened was a tragedy. Is was reported.
Yes. In a way that (essentially) blames the victim, by highlighting the autism as if it's almost a mitigating circumstances to the murder. I read the whole article before coming to this thread; to make such an assumption about what other people have read seems strange considering that I have reached very similar conclusions independently to several other people here, so there is no reason why to assume that many of the other people on the thread haven't read the article in its entirety.
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The father looks like a lowlife looser who used to be a regular at my clubhouse. That article is sickening. I'm glad that there is no cure and I hope that there's never a cure. That father should be hung to his death. I hope that he rots and burns in HELL!! !! ![]()
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Email the author, nlofholm@denverpost.com , and tell her directly how horrible this article is. Do not threaten her, just express how this kind of s**t makes you feel.
Transcript of my communication. Perhaps I went overboard a bit, I dunno how this crap works... but I did something, and that's worth something, right? I tried my best.
I appreciate your response very much; I half expected to hear nothing... I understand how dealing with a child with an autism spectrum disorder or other special needs can be challenging, but the way you used language has indeed offended many of us. For a visual example of reactions from people that actually have Asperger's and read the article, see this thread: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt84861.html
One thing that must be understood is that one of the many troubles that come with autistic spectrum disorders is the almost complete lack of understanding of how social discourse is to be carried out, especially with neurotypical people (affectionately, NT's to us). As a result, when something like this happens, our brains are often forced to simply deal with the negativity for lack of understanding of a way to convey our feelings to others and the public. Also, being a writer for a newspaper automatically grants you a kind of stature that is almost intimidating, and the lack of knowledge on how a complaint should be carried out more often than not leads to inaction. Thank Jeebus that we Aspies have each other, or many of us wouldn't be able to let free our frustrations with situations exactly like this.
Personally, I was so offended and frustrated, knowing that probably none of us spoke out about this, that I was forced to act. Perhaps I was a bit harsh at first, and for that I can apologize. I'm sure your work is generally very good and I recognize that you meant no harm at all. I'll CC this to your editor, but that will be all from my end. I wish you luck and and health.
Thanks for the reply,
Anthony [deleted]
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Subject: RE: On, Autism's terrible toll: Parents risk hitting "a breaking point"
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:48:55 -0700
From: nlofholm@Denverpost.com
To: sentience0@hotmail.com
Dear Anthony,
My article was in no way intended to imply that those with Asperger’s are demons who drive others insane – sometimes murderously so. And you are the first person to respond who took my article that way. I have heard from many parents who thanked me for writing about the frustrations of raising a child with special needs and doing so with very little help and often with little understanding from the general population. Some people can’t deal with that just as they might not be able to deal with other stressors in their lives. I was so impressed with how fiercely the majority of parents I interviewed love and fight for their children with Asperger’s or with full blown, extreme autism.
I agree with you that parents who harm or murder their children in any way are 100 percent responsible. And I am sorry you mistook my reporting on this as making some kind of excuse for such parents.
My editor is LeeAnn Colacioppo. Her email is lcolacioppo@denverpost.com and her phone number is [deleted].
Sincerely,
Nancy
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From: Anthony [deleted][mailto:sentience0@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:01 AM
To: Lofholm, Nancy
Subject: On, Autism's terrible toll: Parents risk hitting "a breaking point"
Nancy,
I have just come across your article released December 2, 2008, and am frankly disgusted with the pure ignorance epitomized in almost every sentence. I am a twenty-one year old male with Asperger's Syndrome and have not driven anyone insane, and neither has any other Aspie I have come in contact with. The story you attempted to cover has nothing to do with autistic disorders, it's about some crazy bastard murdering his goddamned son! I apologize for the language, but are you serious with this nonsense?
Had you even spent ten minutes on a place like www.wrongplanet.net (the largest online community for people with Asperger's or other autistic spectrum disorders), you would realize that we're simply people too, we just have quirks and get confused in social situations. You almost demonize us as these crazy kids and seemingly attempt to justify murdering us, and I find this to be... what's the word... Evil is a damn good one!
Case and point, the sole fact that someone was driven to the point of killing someone by the behavior of another reflects on the individual doing the killing, not the other way around. Much like nothing I can do can ever make you mad - you choose to become angry in response to my actions - the responsibility lies wholly, 100%, on the murderer. I will even go so far as to equate what you have done with those practicing Sharia law, blaming the woman who got raped and killing her because she simply didn't shout loud enough: maybe she enjoyed it, am I right?
What now? I expect to receive an apology letter sent to me personally. I would also like the contact information for your boss. Ideally, you will publicly create a letter of apology in some form, be it another article or otherwise. In fact, if you do publicly apologize somehow, then all will be considered permanently forgiven and forgotten, and I will not need nor would I use your boss's information. If you fail to comply with my requests, then I will simply do nothing, as I am in no way threatening or demanding anything. The ball is in your court and I trust that you will do the right thing.
Sincerely,
Anthony [deleted]
"I didn't know what I said was bad. I sowwwiiee." That's pretty much the extent of Nancy's reply in my opinon. How about taking some responsiblity for your work, and understanding not everyone will be satisified with a sorry when it comes to people writing about how much of a burden they are on others lives. I find this especially annoying being female, and seeing this come from other women. Like they think, if they use the big sad puppy eyes, and behave like a 3 year old about to burst into tears, then apologize nobody can criticize them or say anything. I think when someone's an adult, they should realize that behaving that way isn't going to result in the same shock of "You hurt the baby's feeelllinnngggs!" as it did when they were young, and confronted with something they would rather not hear.
I've also sent a letter to Lofholm, and recieved a woefully inadequate reply. I've forwarded my correspondence on to her editor. I would encourage everyone reading this thread to write Lofholm. She seems to be operating under the idea of, "well, most people liked it, so it's okay."
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Which of course, she doesn't understand the difference between, just because she didn't intend to make excuses for murderers doesn't mean that the article suddenly is free of its ugly stereotypes and implications.
I am not surprised.
Check out this blog post - it describes a number of parents who really love and are dedicated to their autistic children, but when they saw the film Autism Everyday, not only identified much more with the parents (which that part is understandable), but saw nothing wrong with it, even through the part when one mother describes how she spend 15 minutes sitting in the car contemplating going over the bridge with her autistic daughter, and that it was only because of her non-autistic daughter that she didn't do it. (After this presentation talked about in the blog, many if not most of these attendees saw what was wrong with it.)
So I am thinking that, especially with the large chunk of the article that devotes itself to the issues of lack of services, this probably is what mainly drew most of the parents into thinking that "yes, this is a good article about autism" because that's where they relate to - they don't relate to killing their child unless they are murderers which is very few, but nearly every parent of an autistic child has faced the encounters with the "system" for lack of better terms.
But autistics especially those of us who are in the self-advocacy experience, who've read these phrases time and again, it is like going back to the special ed classroom in the resource room. The special ed teacher says instructions vaguely like "that's probably not such a good idea" and the other autistic person says "I don't care if it's the best idea as long as it works".
This goes for awhile, and then a guy comes in the room and tells him to go to the office. Then once he's left the room, the teacher says, "We told him not to do that plenty of times." Jaw drops. And you're supposed to be teaching autistic people??? The point is we can see what it's like on our side of the fence more easily, especially when it comes to the general case but also with individual people too. There is a place and a need for parental perspectives but so is there for ours.
And if parents outnumber autistics, then look to those autistics who respond, in the autistic communities. Our input is equally valid to that of any other demographic and if ignored is equally disgraceful to any other form of prejudice.
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How many more negative articles such as this need to come out before the government or American alternative (sorry, not really into politics so don't know
) realise that there needs to be more support for parents AND the autistic children? I do not tolerate murder for ANY reason (except for maybe self-defence) and it appauls me that anyone might sympathize with a murderer purely because his child was neurologically different. WE are the ones who are supposed to have no understanding of others so why the heck do NT parents have a total inability to work out how their kid's mind works? I know its never easy raising an autistic child but this goes to far...
If I rant any longer, I'll start repeating myself... ![]()
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What an appalling article.
Here is my letter to Gregory Moore, editor of the Denver Post (copied to Nancy Lofholm):
Dear Mr. Moore,
Nancy Lofholm's article of 2 December, "Autism's terrible toll: Parents risk hitting 'a breaking point,'" is misinformed and deeply offensive.
As you may be aware, a link to this article was recently posted on Wrong Planet (http://www.wrongplanet.net/), a major online community for people on the autism spectrum. This no doubt brought it to the attention of many people outside the Denver area who would not normally read your paper, including me.
Ms. Lofholm's suggestion that Jacob Grabe's autism may have caused his father to murder him is irresponsible speculation. She says herself, "Little is known about what made [Allen Grabe] allegedly walk to a closet while his wife was on the telephone, remove a handgun, walk past her into his son's bedroom and shoot him in the head," and yet at the same time points the finger at Jacob's autism as a possible motive. The article suggests this unfortunate boy is at fault for his own murder, for being such a difficult child that he pushed his father over the edge. I am appalled by this suggestion.
It is also obvious that Ms. Lofholm is woefully uneducated about autism spectrum disorders and Asperger Syndrome in particular. She mentions only the negative aspects of autism without mentioning any of the positive ones. She laments the lack of a cure for autism when in fact many autistic people find the idea that we are "victims" of a disorder that needs to be "cured" extremely offensive. She says, "In less-serious cases, labeled Asperger syndrome (the type Jacob was diagnosed with), victims can often speak normally and can take part in some normal interactions. But they don't sleep well. They have obsessions. They can't easily carry on normal conversations. They have difficulty making friends. And they have uncontrollable outbursts." These are sweeping and inaccurate generalizations. Autism manifests itself differently in each individual, and while the characteristics she mentions are each true of some people with autism, they are equally untrue of others. Many people with Asperger Syndrome have only a few of these traits. Despite this, she suggests that they all present in every such person.
According to the Autism Research Centre at the University of Cambridge, Asperger Syndrome "can be thought of as a personality style in which the individual does not 'tune in' naturally to people and is more attracted by objects, systems, and how things work." It involves "strengths in attention to detail, and can be associated with talent in areas such as mathematics, science, fact collecting or rule-based subjects." It is a disability "only in environments where the individual is expected to be both sociable and a good communicator." (http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/autism/as_hfa.asp) This is hardly the "maddening disorder of scrambled brain development" that she portrays in sensationalist fashion.
I do not believe her intention in writing this article was malicious, nor your paper's intention in publishing it. It is merely the product of ignorance and shoddy journalism. However, this is no excuse. By portraying autistic people in an excessively negative light, this article does a tremendous disservice to us. We deserve a public apology for an article of which your paper should be deeply ashamed, and a correction to set the record straight.
Thank You,
Douglas Newman
Asperger Syndrome "Victim"
Suffolk County, New York
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I hope others have written or will write letters as well.
