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One area Magneto went wrong was going for mutant supremacy as a result of trying to save them from a holocaust. But only in some of the comics, according to wikipedia. Some cast him as a hero.

Are you familiar with Godwins law?

The Nazi's wanted to exterminate the Jews. Zyborg just wants to get away from the Nts, not exterminate them.

And how is "Magneto" relevant to this discussion?



I am. What is your point with this statement?



Extermination, segregation, it is all idiocy.

Magneto, from the X-Men, started out trying to prevent a holocaust of mutants but swung to far. People were talking about holocausts of NTs or Aspies, so I thought I'd bring that up to point out the importance of not swinging to far and becoming like them.

Godwins law I brought up because of the Nazi comparisons.

Zyborg isn't suggesting forcibly segregating Nts from Aspies. It would all be voluntary. Crucial difference.

Thank you. I do not believe I could have said it better myself. I like the Airhaven idea, too.

-TB

Airhaven would have the advantage of being able to go anywhere in the world, to rescue people. It's been one of my fantasies to turn up at one of these Curist places in an airship, leap out, dispatch the gourds, rescue the prisoners, then take them to Airhaven

Which would be a collection of flying houses. If they don't like someone, they can just move somewhere else on the frame. That way, everyone should be able to coexist. If the NTs start causing trouble, Airhaven moves and leaves them behind.

That's how it starts out. And I swear some of the posters here have already suggested "breeding out the NT's with the 'stronger' aspie genes" which stinks of the White Australia policy.

I apologize again for my historical ignorance/incorrectness (not one of my knowledge bases) and hope that people will understand what I'm getting at here in spite of it.

Why not breed out Humans in favor of Aspergians? Think of what a world full of Aspergians could accomplish. We wouldn't blight this world the way our predecessors have. Just look at what a few of us can do on our own (Bill Gates, Adolf Hitler, Albert Einstein, etc.)

-TB

It does not look like any of the people supporting Zyborg here have joined his forum (which currently has five members) that he posted a link to on page one.

So should I take this as sarcasm?

Again, how is this relevant to the discussion? Last time I checked, Magneto was a fictional character...



I gathered that. What is your point with bringing it up then?



Well there is nothing stopping people from segregating themselves now!

Except for the fact that when you put a bunch of Aspies together, NTs will show up to 'moderate' or figure out what's going on. Then you end up with a fight, (usually) or just more oppression. In my opinion, as I have often stated, the best path for an enduring world is one in which Humans do not exist. I do not promote holocaust of any kind, but it is merely my opinion.

-TB

OKay. The answers simple:

1. Aspies all get rich off technology, which includes medical stuff for low gravity
2. They then use their resources to build spacecraft.
3. A mission gets launched to land on a (dwarf)planet such as Pallas or Vesta (Ceres is mine).
4. The mission erects a No Humans Allowed sign in orbit.
5. The Aspies all get in their spacecraft and go colonize.
6. We Paraterraform the place.
7. Keeping our telescopes trained on Terra, we observe humanity, occasionally sending UFOs.
8. If they try killing themselves, we stop them. If they don't advance within the decade...
9. ....the solar systems ours.

Um.. the last time I checked, we were humans too.

Putting a bunch of aspies together to live permanently without NT's would be a complete disaster; there'd be a total communication breakdown, and everything would fall apart because nobody would know how to work as a group. Putting a bunch of NT's together without aspies would probably result in a slower rate of progress.

NT's and aspies are supposed to be combined.

And, btw, if we started segregating people, where would we draw the line? There's a reason why it's called the ASD spectrum you know. All the PDD-NOS and ultra high functioning aspies would probably be classified as half-castes, and rejected from both sides. It would be a horrible future.

Unless TheBookKeeper would have it Aspie only?

We can communicate fine. I can communicate with my Aspie friends quite easily. People would just develop their ToM and empathy later, but when it does come it would be more advanced that NTs (hereby known as Enties).

The problem I can see is no-one wanting to do the basic work of farming and such. There are ways around that, especially if most are substinence farmers in addition to their main wor. It could work.

YES!, WE CAN INVENT D-MAT RAIL GUNS ON WALKING SENTRY DRONES WITH CARBON NANO ARMOUR AND WHAT WILL THEY HAVE, boards with nails in it. WE CANNOT LOOSE!

nah but in all seriousness, and i speak for my selfish gene nature nt's should be exterminated before they take the whole planet with them. now i know some aspies would disagree with me and suggest that we should concide with eachother AND THATS BRILLIANT, that is so aspie. unfortuantely i am fuelled with a psycopathis rage to go on a nt slaughtering rampage, now i dont know if thats from my dark history or my personal concept of hmanity that i percived from an aspie perspective but nt's cannot carry on this way. we could lead them or destroy them, i know my choice

incidentally, if i was displayed the choice of wether or not to destroy mankind, i would see it as a tough and painful descision (considering the small amount of benign and intelligent neurotypicals) not something i would enjoy. im an aspie not a monster

I prefer lead them out of this darkness they've found themselves in. Although that darkness *is* created by them closing their eyes...

Aspie Nation is here.