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19 Feb 2010, 6:43 pm

This video is disturbing. And why do they completely ignore HFA in this video?


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19 Feb 2010, 7:45 pm

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This video is disturbing. And why do they completely ignore HFA in this video?


This is so often the problem with us on the autism spectrum---the ignoring of the AS/HFA end of it. We have challenges too. But yet we are often overlooked. This has been a problem with the public perception of autism---most think of autism in regards toward the LFA end of the spectrum. The only thing I know is that we each have to promote our advocacy in our own sectors of the world, and hopefully we can make a difference.


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19 Feb 2010, 8:03 pm

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Just try to imagine how it would feel if your son wouldn't give you a hug, be there for you when you had a tough time etc.


That's awful. We all know you should only have kids for your own benefit. That's why it's okay to beat them when you're in a drunken rage, because who cares about what's good for them?


I would never hit my child, autist or not, however, I would be extremely sad if my own son wouldn't support me through tough times.


Oh, for the love of MIKE. IF you are for real, as opposed to a TROLL, and I am *still* skeptical, if you're having kids to support YOU instead of to help another PERSON make it on this planet, you need to re-evaluate. I didn't have my kids to stroke MY ego or to make ME feel better. Shoot, then some morons have the nerve to call AS people "Selfish".

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19 Feb 2010, 8:10 pm

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This video is disturbing. And why do they completely ignore HFA in this video?


That video is a disgrace. The money it took to make it could have been used to fund research. It could have been used to fund communication devices for those who are without speech. It could have been used to REALLY educate about the *entire* autism spectrum, including HFA/AS. I kept expecting at some point to have some computer generated monster or demon pop out of one of the kids and roar threats at the viewer. Puh-leeeease.

I had NO IDEA that Autism Speaks was that classless and biased, until I saw that video.

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19 Feb 2010, 8:26 pm

The more I have researched and taken notice of autistics around me, the more I agree that there needs to be more done about communication devices. I think communication alternatives can benefit many of us---me included. Even though I communicate verbally (typical AS), there are times that I have relied on typing out things on the computer to talk to my wife about things. Many times I get challenged trying to communicate (often personal things) verbally. I think I can kind of understand the great difficulty the more severe end of the spectrum would have with verbal communication (with many being non-verbal). There must be several such devices made available for communication---I just don't know how common these things are for the more challenged. I have the hope that all autistic people can find a way to communicate in a comfortable manner.


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20 Feb 2010, 1:51 am

Meow101 wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
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Just try to imagine how it would feel if your son wouldn't give you a hug, be there for you when you had a tough time etc.


That's awful. We all know you should only have kids for your own benefit. That's why it's okay to beat them when you're in a drunken rage, because who cares about what's good for them?


I would never hit my child, autist or not, however, I would be extremely sad if my own son wouldn't support me through tough times.


Oh, for the love of MIKE. IF you are for real, as opposed to a TROLL, and I am *still* skeptical, if you're having kids to support YOU instead of to help another PERSON make it on this planet, you need to re-evaluate. I didn't have my kids to stroke MY ego or to make ME feel better. Shoot, then some morons have the nerve to call AS people "Selfish".

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I can't figure out if he's a troll either. He holds the strangest and most controvertial beliefes, and refuses to renounce them when set upon by half a dozen disagreeing posters. I've seen this many, many times.

"Hitler had autism"
"Autistic people learn slower and are more clild like"
"If you are self diagnosed, you don't have autism"

Once, he said that Asperger's syndrome would die out because the new generation wouldn't care about it.People spent a page of thread arguing with him about it, and when it got to the end, he was conceding that "maybe the nerdy girls" would want to become psychologists, from his previous statement that nobody would.

Aye yigh yigh. Sorry. Just had to say that.


Yes, Autism Speaks is a monstrocity. I don't see why it exists. To make money off of a sensitive topic, I suppose.


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25 Feb 2010, 12:05 am

Without reading the whole thread:

I am NOT autism / asperger's syndrome. My identity is not a condition or syndrome I have been diagnosed with.

Ironically, this approach of Autism Speaks says "autism cannot be cured". If a Person "is" a given condition, then curing the condition would "eliminate" the Person.

Business as usual for Autism Speaks: Their way (regardless of how non-sensical it is) or the highway.


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05 Mar 2010, 9:51 pm

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Because you think they're geniuses who want to help autistic people, even though all the money goes to their salaries or to a eugenics program.


That's ironic, because some guy here earlier said that Autism Speaks spends it on research on autism, and that they seek genocide for it, not to give away all the money to their salaries or to a eugenics program.


The research they are doing is for eugenics. That's it. They don't care about helping to support people with autism or helping them be the best that they can be. They wish we were dead.


spot on! this is exactly what i thought when i saw the vid. eradicating disability was on hitler's agenda as well! (maybe i'm looking too far into it but i thought this was worth mentioning)



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06 Mar 2010, 5:30 am

I just realised that our good friends Mr B with the unspellable name just contested an interesting point with another poster. Mr B claims that Autism Speaks are not, in fact, working on eugenics, but rather on "autistc genocide". They're the same thing, Mr B. He even called it ironic. I hate it when people misuse that word.

I still have trouble believing that this guy us for real. I mean, there is actually a real live grown man with kids who believes all this crap and has these logic "skills". Oh well. I guess more people are dead set to their ideas here.

As long as that new poster mysteriously holding the same views as our Mr B wasn't a rereg...


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08 Mar 2010, 11:42 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
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Because you think they're geniuses who want to help autistic people, even though all the money goes to their salaries or to a eugenics program.


That's ironic, because some guy here earlier said that Autism Speaks spends it on research on autism, and that they seek genocide for it, not to give away all the money to their salaries or to a eugenics program.


The research they are doing is for eugenics. That's it. They don't care about helping to support people with autism or helping them be the best that they can be. They wish we were dead.


I believe Autism Speaks wants a better world.


yeah they want a better world the same way hilter wanted world peace ( * roll eyes*)
you don't get it they don't like you are any one with autism



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05 Nov 2010, 7:11 pm

when they die, there will be no heaven for autism speaks, only hell :twisted:



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07 Nov 2010, 11:49 am

Great thanks to this sh***y video I now have to boycott Alfonso Cuarón's films...Like the third Harry Potter film..... :evil:



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07 Nov 2010, 1:28 pm

I guess this topic has been fully and completely bumped.

Has anyone else ever noticed that the people "fighting autism" in the video are the relatives? Like "I am a mother, father, sister, brother, etc."? Never autistics. Believe it or not, we're just fine with the way we are. It's the rest of the world that sees us as an inconvenience and wants us to fit in with their ideas. There was a Reader's Digest article on a down syndrome girl who had been institutionalized. Her mother's rationale? "There was no room in her perfect existance for a ret*d child." (Direct quote, and I include that so JerryHatake doesn't send me another angry message) But anyway, isn't that just like all people with autistic children? Thankfully most of them don't institutionalize their children, but they harbor intense resentment towards them (see: Autism Every Day) and beg for a cure so their kids can fit into their perfect existance, no matter how happy they are as they stand.



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07 Nov 2010, 1:46 pm

BroncosRtheBest wrote:
I guess this topic has been fully and completely bumped.

Has anyone else ever noticed that the people "fighting autism" in the video are the relatives? Like "I am a mother, father, sister, brother, etc."? Never autistics. Believe it or not, we're just fine with the way we are. It's the rest of the world that sees us as an inconvenience and wants us to fit in with their ideas. There was a Reader's Digest article on a down syndrome girl who had been institutionalized. Her mother's rationale? "There was no room in her perfect existance for a ret*d child." (Direct quote, and I include that so JerryHatake doesn't send me another angry message) But anyway, isn't that just like all people with autistic children? Thankfully most of them don't institutionalize their children, but they harbor intense resentment towards them (see: Autism Every Day) and beg for a cure so their kids can fit into their perfect existance, no matter how happy they are as they stand.


My son is 3 years old and I don't know how he will grow up, but he will never be instituzionalized, not as long as I live.