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Which one would you prefer?
Autie 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Aspie 59%  59%  [ 27 ]
Aspergian 30%  30%  [ 14 ]
Autasian 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 46

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06 Jun 2011, 7:02 pm

So a compromise to accommodate for the needs of those who are far less socially active and not included due to disability when otherwise very high functioning people say they are autistic is to create awareness of the spectrum concept. I'd say that anyone should if they are going along with a protectionistic modality is to say they have a high functioning form of autism, high functioning autism or when applied to Asperger's Syndrome on the autism spectrum. Then when someone is officially re-diagnosed or confirmed diagnosed with the new DSM as on the spectrum say high functioning autism (and on the autism spectrum) or if you prefer which really gets on my nerves should someone say to me High Functioning Autistic which denotes fairly without scare tactics and reasonably protects the spectrum image in assumptive functional groups.


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06 Jun 2011, 7:17 pm

'ASer' for person w/ AS & 'AS' for the condition itself when writing, abbreviated.



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06 Jun 2011, 10:04 pm

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'ASer' for person w/ AS & 'AS' for the condition itself when writing, abbreviated.


Reminds me of compudora.

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07 Jun 2011, 4:06 pm

ci wrote:
So a compromise to accommodate for the needs of those who are far less socially active and not included due to disability when otherwise very high functioning people say they are autistic is to create awareness of the spectrum concept. I'd say that anyone should if they are going along with a protectionistic modality is to say they have a high functioning form of autism, high functioning autism or when applied to Asperger's Syndrome on the autism spectrum. Then when someone is officially re-diagnosed or confirmed diagnosed with the new DSM as on the spectrum say high functioning autism (and on the autism spectrum) or if you prefer which really gets on my nerves should someone say to me High Functioning Autistic which denotes fairly without scare tactics and reasonably protects the spectrum image in assumptive functional groups.
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I ally myself with those who are less capable of handling the current "social milieu". I recognise that there are problems, and try to bridge the gaps between "normal" and "autistic". I cannot do that if I am not allowed to call myself autistic.


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07 Jun 2011, 4:29 pm

You can call yourself anything you want. I think it is important to note that one is high functioning when one is otherwise people think all people with autism are that high functioning. The higher functioning the less the condition effects a person. It's a kind of ethics in awareness politics so as to preserve and enhance services for individuals who are otherwise not social, not very social and more profoundly effected by the original condition autistic disorder when Asperger's for instance is very mild or known as simply a cousin to autism.


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07 Jun 2011, 5:24 pm

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You can call yourself anything you want. I think it is important to note that one is high functioning when one is otherwise people think all people with autism are that high functioning. The higher functioning the less the condition effects a person. It's a kind of ethics in awareness politics so as to preserve and enhance services for individuals who are otherwise not social, not very social and more profoundly effected by the original condition autistic disorder when Asperger's for instance is very mild or known as simply a cousin to autism.

I still cannot understand you. affect/effect. profound/mild.

I am totally autistic. I work with autistics that have more trouble interacting with this world than I do. I try to help them. I don't succeed all that often (today was pretty poor).

I suspect that you are also an advocate, but that is not very obvious from your posts.


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07 Jun 2011, 5:32 pm

We have different advocacy approaches. You don't like mine so you say it's not evident and have approached me with ill regard like calling me a wife beater which is a bad approach and poor advocacy reciprocation potential. The poor attitude from some advocates such as name calling and put downs is what tends to make them not be heard by the mainstream or are heard due to he drama effect but tends to be short-lived. I reserve the title of very high functioning for individuals that are otherwise self-included and going to college full time and able to work without supports. For high functioning that seems to be individuals that can express themselves and are able to attend to basic life functions with or without help. So high functioning is a spectrum whereas low and moderate functioning you get into the spectrum of cognitive ability and or combined ability to express. This is my opinion however which is based on what professionals have told me.

In media as an advocate and opportunity innovator I am sure to describe myself as high functioning. That way the public does not get the wrong idea of autism. There are very high functioning to lower functioning classifications. Some people have an agenda and want to be the explicit voice of autism simply because they have form of autism which is when applicable simply mild. I believe it is ethical to fully disclose ones condition in awareness when one discloses their disability. I also believe that advocacy approaches that seek to work with one another vs. alienate others is best and the most productive in potential.


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07 Jun 2011, 5:55 pm

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I'm sorry.
It's so hard to do this stuff a sentence or two, at at time. I do believe that you are a good advocate.
I worry that you are less able to handle the less functional individuals.


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07 Jun 2011, 6:09 pm

I think that you neither know me nor are able to judge me with regards to that. Your reply was about using your experience to justify a judgement on me and how you are better. Just like the vindictive wife beater comments. I am not sure why you persist but if you want good communication try to be constructive and more pleasant. With regards to "lower" functioning people and what I do I was sure to arrange a qualified careerists direct services and experienced program director. It is not my intent to be a direct service professional as I am a consumer and public relations advocate.

If you would like to communicate in a way that is mutually respectful and constructive simply try to do that instead of what you have been doing to obviously provoke socially destructive results.


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07 Jun 2011, 8:56 pm

Calling someone autistic is not the same thing as calling them a disorder; it's saying that they have a disorder. If you called them "autism", that would be saying that they were a disorder.


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07 Jun 2011, 9:07 pm

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Calling someone autistic is not the same thing as calling them a disorder; it's saying that they have a disorder. If you called them "autism", that would be saying that they were a disorder.


No. They are two different words describing the same condition. Autism is a disability, condition and in pathology technically a disease. I choose not to be called a disorder, disease or condition. It's OK if I am diagnosed with what is called autism so I can get the help I need like services. Yet I think it's going a bit to far to call me a disorder. It's very similar to calling someone in a wheelchair a crippled because someone is referring to a person as their condition. I understand most people don't realize this when they say it and I realize some enjoy it. I just think there are reasonable grounds for the consideration to not call people it should they not want to and parents for instance think it might effect emotional psychological development.


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07 Jun 2011, 9:26 pm

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You can call yourself anything you want.

I do not need your permission, but thanks anyways. I will continue to say that I am autistic.


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07 Jun 2011, 9:36 pm

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ci wrote:
You can call yourself anything you want.

I do not need your permission, but thanks anyways. I will continue to say that I am autistic.


I didn't think you needed my clarification. Yet I hope people realize you are high functioning and there is a whole other end to the "spectrum". Personally I don't see why anyone would want to call themselves a disorder concept when we each were born just the way we are. To me it is senseless to then be insulted at treatment advancement related awarenesses projection of autism in severe forms or when applicable said symptoms which are debilitating to those who appear otherwise high functioning. It is a clash in which one then uses the disorder as an identity to attempt to evade fundamental liberty advancements in the form of choices.

The right to the dignity of a disability concept does not supersede the right to treatment nor treatment advancements. For the sake of the self-esteem of individuals and especially youth I think it is wise to focus less on a disability and more on ability. Positivity is important especially to young minds and transitioning adults. We can preserve the best kinds of dignities I believe which are benificial to personal choices by letting go of the negativities in ones daily focuses and self-image becuase it's just a made up concept by psycho-babble doctors. :P


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08 Jun 2011, 5:02 am

ci wrote:
... Just like the vindictive wife beater comments. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_question

Stop quoting me out of context.

You asked a leading question. In my reply, I gave the classic example of such a question. I assumed you would recognise the example. Read the above Wikipedia article. That is a link I have given you once before. It appears you have not read it. I have explained all this before.


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08 Jun 2011, 12:08 pm

I'm not quoting you. I am however expressing my dislike with your preference to portray myself in insulting ways and act like you didn't. I am sure you can choose better words. No reason to persist on an open forum. You can PM me.


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08 Jun 2011, 6:50 pm

ci wrote:
I'm not quoting you. I am however expressing my dislike with your preference to portray myself in insulting ways and act like you didn't. I am sure you can choose better words. No reason to persist on an open forum. You can PM me.

Why should I PM you. You are publicly accusing me of things I did not do.


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