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27 Jun 2011, 1:20 pm

My psychiatrist told me that autism fits the definition of mental retardation because autism usually involves delayed speech.

Of course by the defintions of the medical establishment the brilliant physicist Stephen Hawking who is the equivalent of Einstein would have to be considered a ret*d because he needs a communication device to speak.



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27 Jun 2011, 2:13 pm

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For years neurotypicals have tried to sell us on the idea that we are a bunch of borderline ret*ds and that we should be satisfied with the temporary menial jobs that they give us. Now when the autistic fights back and declares that autism is not mental retardation but rather the path to finding ones genius suddenly the neurotypical becomes so resentful that an autistic dares to think of himself as a brilliant genius that the neurotypical doubles up on their effort to find every fault of the autistic in order to humiliate and insult the autistic.


wow that is very good writing and totally summarizes my thinking can i have your permission to use it?



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27 Jun 2011, 2:40 pm

Permission granted.



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27 Jun 2011, 3:20 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
My psychiatrist told me that autism fits the definition of mental retardation because autism usually involves delayed speech.

Of course by the defintions of the medical establishment the brilliant physicist Stephen Hawking who is the equivalent of Einstein would have to be considered a ret*d because he needs a communication device to speak.


I think in order for someone to be mentally ret*d they pretty much have to be at a lower mental age then actual age. I mean most mentally ret*d people I have seen are like little kids mentally a speech delay is not quite the same thing. In fact I know a girl that had a speech delay(dont think she is autistic) but yeah she's not ret*d.

I for instance can accuratly say I have ret*d processing speed....I am one of those people who hears a joke and is the last person to get it it. But yeah that does not mean I am mentally ret*d. So I think your psychiatrist might want to brush up on his knowledge so he can avoid making such ridiculous claims.



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27 Jun 2011, 3:24 pm

aspie48 wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
For years neurotypicals have tried to sell us on the idea that we are a bunch of borderline ret*ds and that we should be satisfied with the temporary menial jobs that they give us. Now when the autistic fights back and declares that autism is not mental retardation but rather the path to finding ones genius suddenly the neurotypical becomes so resentful that an autistic dares to think of himself as a brilliant genius that the neurotypical doubles up on their effort to find every fault of the autistic in order to humiliate and insult the autistic.


wow that is very good writing and totally summarizes my thinking can i have your permission to use it?

And the both of you seem to be of the opinion that this is how we should treat NTs.....do you really want to treat people in a way you don't like being treated? Have at it if you want but I think I will continue treating others how i want to be treated unless an individual gives me a reason not to then I will have a problem with that individual not every single NT in the world.



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27 Jun 2011, 3:27 pm

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aspie48 wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
For years neurotypicals have tried to sell us on the idea that we are a bunch of borderline ret*ds and that we should be satisfied with the temporary menial jobs that they give us. Now when the autistic fights back and declares that autism is not mental retardation but rather the path to finding ones genius suddenly the neurotypical becomes so resentful that an autistic dares to think of himself as a brilliant genius that the neurotypical doubles up on their effort to find every fault of the autistic in order to humiliate and insult the autistic.


wow that is very good writing and totally summarizes my thinking can i have your permission to use it?

And the both of you seem to be of the opinion that this is how we should treat NTs.....do you really want to treat people in a way you don't like being treated? Have at it if you want but I think I will continue treating others how i want to be treated unless an individual gives me a reason not to then I will have a problem with that individual not every single NT in the world.

well as i have said before it is essential to remain dominant otherwise you will be dominated. I think autistic supremacy is the only way forward for us.



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27 Jun 2011, 3:53 pm

I'm finding this thread quite bizarre, I am not inferior to anyone else but I'm not superior either - I'm just me, a human being that deserves to be treated like any other. This supremacy idea just reminds me of the jerks in school that thought because they were physically more advanced it gave them the right to bully others. Bogus.



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27 Jun 2011, 4:23 pm

I remember I had a job at the hospital building wheelchairs. The conventional strategy would have been to lie low, not making any waves and not to draw attention to myself. This did not work because I had a bully co-worker who snitched on me everytime I made the tiniest mistake and he loved to call me mentally ill. So I vowed I had nothing to lose by making a name for myself. So during the monthly medical meetings I boldly proclaimed that robotic technology was the wave of the future that was going to help disabled people and I even arranged a field trip where they were doing the latest robotic research.

Of course my Boss tried to fire me and slammed me with a horrible performance evaluation but I survived because his Boss who was a Doctor thought my bad performance was because I was new and decided to give me another chance because my interest in robotic technology seemed so promising. I lasted on this job for 4 years at it was only because I received a second bad performance evaluation that they had to let me go. But before they fired me I received a prestigious recognition award sealed by the State of California.



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27 Jun 2011, 4:31 pm

totally agree because i am sick and tired of us autistics having to suffer like this with our rights denied.



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27 Jun 2011, 4:35 pm

aspie48 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
For years neurotypicals have tried to sell us on the idea that we are a bunch of borderline ret*ds and that we should be satisfied with the temporary menial jobs that they give us. Now when the autistic fights back and declares that autism is not mental retardation but rather the path to finding ones genius suddenly the neurotypical becomes so resentful that an autistic dares to think of himself as a brilliant genius that the neurotypical doubles up on their effort to find every fault of the autistic in order to humiliate and insult the autistic.


wow that is very good writing and totally summarizes my thinking can i have your permission to use it?

And the both of you seem to be of the opinion that this is how we should treat NTs.....do you really want to treat people in a way you don't like being treated? Have at it if you want but I think I will continue treating others how i want to be treated unless an individual gives me a reason not to then I will have a problem with that individual not every single NT in the world.

well as i have said before it is essential to remain dominant otherwise you will be dominated. I think autistic supremacy is the only way forward for us.

So you belive the only way to survive is behave like the very people who put you down in the first place? I just don't see how that is going to solve anything.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:09 pm

no i want to preserve my rights freedom and autism. how am i being like them? i am fighting them, your logic has a basic flaw which you have failed to see.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:26 pm

WayneP wrote:
I'm finding this thread quite bizarre, I am not inferior to anyone else but I'm not superior either - I'm just me, a human being that deserves to be treated like any other. This supremacy idea just reminds me of the jerks in school that thought because they were physically more advanced it gave them the right to bully others. Bogus.


Exactly



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27 Jun 2011, 5:29 pm

Here is what the neurotypicals have in store for us.
1. Slamming us with bad grades at school in order to keep us out of the good colleges.
2. Temporary menial jobs at low pay without any benefits and with long periods of unemployment.
3. The ability to fire us from our jobs at will for even the tiniest infractions and often enough for no reason at all or to make our jobs a living hell if they decide to keep us.
4. Depriving us of our ability to make a living and to provide for ourselves food clothing and shelter.
5. Depriving us of disablity payments by declaring us too high functioning for government support but too low functioning for meaningfull employment.
6. No support for autistics from labor unions but rather constant harrassment and blackballing.

And now the neurotyicals accuse autistics of discrimination if by any chance an autistic achieves a management position!
First of all even if I wanted to be a total bigot and only hire autistics where would I find the autistic workers? Neurotypicals make up over 90 percent of the workforce. Even if the other 10 percent are autistic they are probably in the closet and are not comming out anytime soon. I would be lucky to get away with hiring one token autistic worker and he would probably not be autistic but have some sort of disability so I could meet my quota.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:29 pm

aspie48 wrote:
no i want to preserve my rights freedom and autism. how am i being like them? i am fighting them, your logic has a basic flaw which you have failed to see.


Well because of the whole superiority thing...yeah I got picked on in my life by people who thought they where superior to me......so if I walk around thinking I'm superior to everyone without autism its pretty much the same thing except the reverse. I do not think there is any failed logic on my part as I am suggesting the more rational idea that NTs are not inferior.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:31 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Here is what the neurotypicals have in store for us.
1. Slamming us with bad grades at school in order to keep us out of the good colleges.
2. Temporary menial jobs at low pay without any benefits and with long periods of unemployment.
3. The ability to fire us from our jobs at will for even the tiniest infractions and often enough for no reason at all or to make our jobs a living hell if they decide to keep us.
4. Depriving us of our ability to make a living and to provide for ourselves food clothing and shelter.
5. Depriving us of disablity payments by declaring us too high functioning for government support but too low functioning for meaningfull employment.
6. No support for autistics from labor unions but rather constant harrassment and blackballing.

And now the neurotyicals accuse autistics of discrimination if by any chance an autistic adhieves a management position!
First of all even if I wanted to be a total bigot and only hire autistics where would I find the autistic workers? Neurotypicals make up over 90 percent of the workforce. Even if the other 10 percent are autistic they are probably in the closet and are not comming out anytime soon. I would be lucky to get away with hiring one token autistic worker and he would probably not be autistic but jut have some sort of disability so I could meet my quota.


Well I still do not think all NTs are actually conspiring to make people with autism suffer, I mean come on.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:50 pm

The cries the oppressed autistics have literally gone up to heaven. The Earthly slave masters of the autistics have responded with evem more oppression. Now it is even harder for the autistic to find and keep a low paying job let alone a good paying job and more autistics are finding their unemployment benefits running out.