Would I ever be quailfied to get medical marijuana?

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That first line contradicts what I just put before it! Pharmaceutical companies are not necessarily evil! Also what does whether something is natural got to do with it? Penicillin is a 'natural' chemical, but that didn't stop pharmaceutical companies from delivering it in a safe form. Furthermore just because of some hearsay about some pharmaceutical company's anti-autism drug, doesn't mean that all pharmaceutical drugs are dangerous. Furthermore advertisments are supposed to make you buy a product. Also can I have an example of this blatantness?



Well pharmaceutical companies will only sell a product if it makes a profit as with any company. Since marijuana is not liscensed by anyone then you can go out there and make a decent pill if you want, if you can. But my original argument is that pharmaceutical companies aren't necessaily evil.


But there are still risks of smoking and that's why I am trying to tell you!
REMOVE THE SMOKING=REMOVE THE NEGATIVES OF SMOKING=BETTER FOR THE USER=BETTER TREATMENT
If there is an alternative that reduces the insufficiency of anything in this world then you should seek it and this is just another example.

Not that I look upon smokers with much respect either. They can tank their lungs as far away from me as possible and we wont mind each other. Not that this effects the original argument that we were debating the use of marijuana extracts for use as medicine.

And I thought the argument was about medicinal marijuana......most places medicinal marijuana is legal those who are legally using it smoke it, eat edibles, use the tinctures ect. Medicinal marijuana is legal in some place and smoking is one method people choose. It wont cause as much lung damage as ciggerettes either.

One thing that's odd about me is that when I smoke I do not get the munchies very often I don't know is this an asperger thing to feel not hungry after smoking a few joints or is it just me?

I tried it when I was young, and it numbed my senses out. Food didn't even taste like anything to me. I could never understand why people got the munchies, and could never understand what they meant by high, if anything it made me feel low. It slowed my perception of time down, I remember driving, seeing a stop sign, and wondering when I would ever get to it.

It must have really been great for some, because it was a way of life, for many people that I knew.

Maybe it helps some depending on their particular sensory issues, or other issues related to Autism, but from what I could see, most of the effect it had on me was opposite from others. If I wanted to get high, all I had to do is to drink one cup of coffee. If I wanted to relax, one beer would do the trick. I didn't like my mind altered much, so I refused to drink much more than 1 cup of coffee or 1 beer.

In the ICD10 diagnostic manual for Aspergers, it lists episodes of psychosis in young adulthood as an association with Aspergers; some must experience it for it to be recognized in that highly respected World Health Organization manual, but I've never seen that association before in the US.

Marijuana might not be a good thing for those in young adulthood that might have a propensity toward an episode of psychosis. Only the individual, I guess, or their psychiatrist, could possibly assess this issue though.

psychosis means you loose touch with reality never happened to me but doctors told me that it was marijuana but I never told them I have been using a more powerful psychedelic drug called Salvia. Marijuana doesn't cause psychosis because the plant has anti psychotic cannabiods within the plant.

There is a great deal of evidence that cannabis is associated with psychosis; however the majority of people that smoke marijuana are not effected by it in this way. While some may experience an anti-psychotic benefit from it, there is evidence the opposite is the case for others. Brain chemistry and genetics vary among individuals, and prescription drugs have opposing effects on individuals, so it's not too suprising that they are finding this to be the case with cannabis as well. This might be something to discuss with your doctor.



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110301184056.htm

well that kinda sucks.

Here's the quote from the ICD10:

http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/



Pychosis is a mental disorder separate from Aspergers. So this is an association, not a criteria requirement in the ICD10. Children may start out with an Aspergers diagnosis, with no psychotic episodes, and then as stated in the ICD10, psychotic episodes occasionally occur in early adult life.

There is a great deal of evidence that cannabis is associated with psychosis; however the majority of people that smoke marijuana are not effected by it in this way. While some may experience an anti-psychotic benefit from it, there is evidence the opposite is the case for others. Brain chemistry and genetics vary among individuals, and prescription drugs have opposing effects on individuals, so it's not too suprising that they are finding this to be the case with cannabis as well. This might be something to discuss with your doctor.
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Well can be associated.......in psychology there are no absolutes, but yes it can contribute to such symptoms in some people. Kind of like anti-depressants can make people more anxious/depressed and apparently can make you hear people whispering about you when no one is that is probably not what most people experiance when they take anti-depressants but it happens. I have never had that with cannabis.

Also though I imagine strains with higher THC and less CBD would be more likely to contribute to psychosis then a strain with more CBD and less THC for instance. As if I remember right CBD is the chemical with anti-psychotic properties.

Does Hashish or purple kush have any CBD in it?

Why do you use any chemical to deal with chronic depression anyway? That's like trying to fix a city fortification by making it out of timber. Short fix, no long-term gain.

Because I would rather do that than be in constant pain all the time, feeling better helps me function.......of course it is not a cure otherwise I would be over this bout of feeling close to suicidal I have fallen into already. I would rather pick up the pipe then the razor blade in the kitchen or the pills in the bedroom. And it is nice to relax sometimes, I am usually kind of tense, anxious and on edge you could say so the cannabis slows down my thinking so I am not overanalazing too many things at once and getting anxious about it.

It is a way of temporary relief, I don't expect it to fix anything.

A few years ago I would cut my self when I didnt have any bud but then I realized getting a tattoo is better and I have one of a marijuana leaf.

Why is profit evil? Profit is not necessarily evil. Also the rest of your response smacks of false singulars. Not all phamaceutical companies are evil. Not all pharmaceutical companies are corrupt. Pharmaceutical companies could be good at making plant extracts on an industrial scale. Also as I already said 'natural' doesn't mean anything. It's a chemical. It doesn't matter if it is synthesized in a plant or in a factory.
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Most? I am sorry but when I take codeine I don't get liver damage. Quit appealing to the worst five percent. My problem is that pharmaceutical companies DONT NEED to be evil. Hey, if you're making marijuana edibles for medicinal use, that means you're in the pharmaceutical industry.



Why did you put pill in quote marks? Also yes actually. That's how economies work. Everything has a cost if you don't make it yourself. And what gives you the right to take away someone's ability to market a pill based on THC? As someone's right to buy it? It smacks of hypocrisy when you remember when companies tried to ban marijuana for their own purposes.


So is there a specially designed pill available? Also are you saying a medical community is proscribing smokeable marijuana? Asceplius' ghost!


It will still cause lung damage.


Also, are you actually reading what I put?



Are you purposefully ignoring the fact that I had pointed this out?

Ok the OP mentioned medicinal marijuana...in my state and other states where that is legal they sell smokable marijuana at the dispensaries....not extracts just actual marijuana or things like tinctures and edibles that have marijuana in them. So I don't see how the debate wahs about marijuana extracts.

And no I am not purposely doing anything other than trying to explain my opinion.

You said they were not exactly evil but... So you did say they were evil. Also all companies have to think about profit first. Otherwise they wouldn't exist. And again you use false singulars. Your attempt to tar all pharmaceutical companies with the same brush is cackhanded andfallacious, not to mention unfair.

I don't mind if they legalize marijuana for the uses of medicine. If anything I would prefer if people did grow it themselves.

They don't need to add a chemical that discourages excessive use. Wait a sec, that doesn't sound like profiteering at all like you accused them of doing. Also I just found out what Acetominophen is. It's paracetamol. Also vicodin is a combination of paracetamol and hydrocodone. It can't be called vicodin if it doesn't have both of those ingredients in because it needs both of those ingedients to have the proscribed effect.

Acetaminophen liver damage you were talking about from the Wiki: While generally safe for use at recommended doses (1,000 mg per single dose and up to 4,000 mg per day for adults, up to 2,000 mg per day if drinking alcohol), acute overdoses of paracetamol can cause potentially fatal liver damage and, in rare individuals, a normal dose can do the same.

4000 mg by the way is equivalent to eight tablets of paracetamol.

So for one single drug it's not so clear cut as 'it causes liver damage'


Did I say this was wrong? I never said people shouldn't grow marijuana. I just said they shouldn't smoke it. Quit trying to associate me with some crazy scheme on demonizing corporations.


Telling people that they can smoke is not good medical practice.


Thankyou for not shirking from that. Honesty in the face of difficult facts is something I see too rarely on here.


Well to be honest I was using marijuana extract because it would be a decent way of providing people with a chemical that may benefit them without relying on a method that causes lung damage. It's still all about medical marijuana. I think it began when I first showed my dislike for smoking as an offhand comment.