The Tipping Point for Mental Illness

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A would say a tipping point would be engaging the mental health system.
I believe it currently aggravates mental health issues, due to the profit motive, politics and ignorant NT's with medical careers....

A psychologist and her organisation [I got to know last year] were absolutely shocking
All they wanted was to keep you on the books for $$$$$$$$$$$
Revolving door medicine

The causes of much suffering and harm needs to be placed at the feet of medical training organisations

For me, it was quite unbelievable how ineffective these healers and their potions are

I can't say I disagree.

Some people can manage schizophrenia without medication. Some people choose to not medicate for a while even though they aren't managing because they are only having side effects no help.

However, if you read the rest of the post, its not forced medication, it is harmful medication that is also helping them. The suicide rate of people with schizophrenia is incredibly high.

It's people who even with all of those horrible side effects, its better than psychosis. It's better than completely losing grip on reality and only having some hallucinations, only some delusions, not being completely gone.

Forced medication would be terrible, but a lot of people choose those side effects, because its the better option, because it keeps them alive, because it keeps them possibly working, because it keeps them from having too bad of hallucinations, because it keeps them functioning to some degree.

Some people find a way around it.

Alright well if one chooses the side effects over the symptoms that is their choice and there is nothing wrong with that, I thought you meant forced meds with horrible side effects which I have a hard time not having an issue with.

What normally helps the best for unmedicated schizophrenics?
I imagine a good diet, exercise, friends and lifestyle would be the normal procedure? Same as for aspergians

And a supportive, accepting environment that doesn't bully or make them feel like freaks.

By trial and error, I mainly mean that the doctor should listen to the person (which can be done in as little as three minutes). And ideally, the patient would have a choice of a medication with less side effects.

I do NOT think people should be forced to take a medication they do not like. But I DO think that, if symptoms are too severe to be managed without the use of medication, SOME sort of medication needs to be taken. And this is why I mentioned why we need better meds and better diagnostic methods to determine what medication will work best for any one individual. It is up to the patient to communicate to their psychiatrist if a medication is intolerable and needs changing, and it's up to the psychiatrist to actually listen and take the patient's feelings and experiences into consideration.

Also having a mentally ill person can be a challenge for family members at home. I don't really want mentally ill people in jail and think giving criminals health care while not for mentally ill is not the best choice and provides bad incentives because get healthcare if you commit a crime is not a good incentive structure.