Woman with AS killed

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Fnord, in Arizona in order to get gender markers changed on ID the first step is to have a doctor write a letter to the State that says the person is undergoing transition. If you watched the video, you know that this guy was prevented from starting his medical transition because the therapist said he had to "cure his autism" first. That he was legally and medically still declared "female" appears to be much of the root cause of the problem and the reason he was in such a state of despair.

All things considered we should probably abolish ID laws as a whole, having a face & name is a position of trust; it's just part of the usual state of nature, demanding to know exactly who everyone is can't really be typecast as some inalienable right. I refuse to pass cops my ID all the time, they know I'm within my rights to do so & I know nothing substantial in my life is contingent on a plastic card, U.V. watermark or magnetic barcode. In truth, capability has almost nothing to do with training & everything to do with discipline. In the forensic pathology, the public really needs to start dispassionately evaluating the wild west mentalities of this rash of meaningless police violence. We need to know what they really think they're saving!

Edenthiel, I am aware of all of the facts related to this issue - a least, those that have been published by the news outlets. The individual was distraught over the fact that no one would endorse the individual's desire to make the transition from female to male by citing other issues that they deemed more significant. I've already said that Arizona is backward in this respect.

Speaking of respect, my use of the phrase "the individual" is about as gender-neutral as I can get, and I am not about to use the pronoun "it" to refer to a person, whether that individual is dead or alive. Leave the gender-judgments to others - it's about time our culture became gender-neutral in its attitudes and pronoun use, anyway. Too bad the English language has no gender-neutral pronoun for people that doesn't sound like the speaker is describing a thing.

I am eager to read the coroner's report. That should clear up any relevant issues that remain in this case.

Taunt ye not the dragons, for thou art small, and wouldst squishe noisilie when smote!

Statement by ASAN and other organizations

While the statement did cite the individual's videos, it failed to mention that in one of those videos, the individual clearly stated that the individual had already tried to commit "Suicide by Cop", and that the individual expressed the desire to try committing suicide again.

Let's see what the investigations - including the coroner's report - reveal about this case.

That just means the police aided the suicide.

I'm grateful the dog wasn't around. Had that dog charged the officers, it would have gotten a bullet in the head.

Dog off leash comes at officers=dead dog.

And I'm also grateful Kayden kill the dog before hand.

What? He killed his dog? Where did you get that info?

Whew, he didn't kill the dog.

http://instinctmagazine.com/post/update ... nd-confuse

I will keep reading more on this.

Everyone is entitled to express their own opinions, but I doubt that anyone is entitled to his own facts. Stick to the truth, please.

none of the mainstream articles mention him killing his dog

Exactly my point, V, we have an account of circumstances nothing more. Kayden and his family deserve better from people than to have social media make proclamations they aren't informed, equipped or able to make. It is unseemly and unacceptable.

The real fact is that there are many many people who post on this site who could easily find themselves in the same situation as Kayden did, and it could end the same way. If there are lessons to be learned then they will only come from asking hard questions. If the final ruling is that what happened there was all is fine and dandy, then we should all be concerned. An autistic person died at the hands of an authority body who had a duty of care to him; if you (and by that I don't mean you personally V) don't believe there is any problem with this then I despair.

The only facts we know in this case have come from the individual, the parents, on-the-scene eyewitnesses, the police, and other legal authorities. All claims that contradict these facts seem purely speculative, or based solely on subjective emotional opinions.

Once the police report, the coroner's report, the Internal Affairs investigative report, and any other officially documented reports are finally released to the public, then and only then will we know all that we need to know.

Because, as we've seen time and time again, when the police kill someone they are always very honest about why they absolutely had no choice but to kill that vulnerable (usually a minority) person, and they never ever lie about what they do on the job, especially in their reports and especially when somebody turns up dead on their watch. This is why cops don't need dash or body cams--we can totally trust their word without needing to actually see video evidence of what they've done on the job. Because we know cops never ever lie. Once again, we are all aware that cops never lie. Ever.

sarcasm detected LOL