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16 Feb 2008, 10:08 pm

I don't have a problem with a cure, so long as it's post-natal..;) to be honest, cure, or no cure, I'd at least like the choice...;)

that being said, I've heard they have a really thin skin, and have harrassed and sued people who disagree with them. I don't need that kind of tsuris...;)



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16 Feb 2008, 10:11 pm

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and what is your idea of the alternative that 'so many people' should be doing, WilsonFisk?

Merle


If you haven't noticed there are many who post reguarly on these forums so I don't understand the need to use inverted commas when i said 'so many people'. And your question, without basis, presupposes that I am denigrating the lifestyle of highly active, state dependent forum users. I can appreciate how such folk can be sensitive to criticism given certain views about state leeches, but don't misinterpret my question/comments. I was simply asking a question because I am curious and if someone doesn't want to answer because it's none of my business then fine.

Hmmm, can you rewrite that so I understand it? I'm not trying to be mean, but I want to hear your opinion without being confused.



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16 Feb 2008, 10:13 pm

pakled wrote:
I don't have a problem with a cure, so long as it's post-natal..;) to be honest, cure, or no cure, I'd at least like the choice...;)

that being said, I've heard they have a really thin skin, and have harrassed and sued people who disagree with them. I don't need that kind of tsuris...;)

They as in Autism Speaks?
I agree with you there pakled :D Choice is one of the best things in society :P



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16 Feb 2008, 10:31 pm

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and what is your idea of the alternative that 'so many people' should be doing, WilsonFisk?

Merle


If you haven't noticed there are many who post reguarly on these forums so I don't understand the need to use inverted commas when i said 'so many people'. And your question, without basis, presupposes that I am denigrating the lifestyle of highly active, state dependent forum users. I can appreciate how such folk can be sensitive to criticism given certain views about state leeches, but don't misinterpret my question/comments. I was simply asking a question because I am curious and if someone doesn't want to answer because it's none of my business then fine.


How quickly you think you know what I am thinking or where I am going. Are you an Aspie at all to have such theory of mind?

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17 Feb 2008, 5:57 am

WilsonFisk - I can't speak for anyone else, but when you first asked Zarathustra that question it reeked of "If you haven't got a job, get one you lazy so and so"! I thought that was rude above everything else, when you consider that a lot of members here don't have jobs because they CAN'T work (for various reasons) - because of their difference, plus maybe a few additional issues.

Now I want to address this question to everyone on this thread who said that they would like a cure.

Why?



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17 Feb 2008, 6:52 am

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It's a an honest question ...


There's nothing honest about it, take your treacherous tongue elsewhere.



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17 Feb 2008, 6:59 am

WilsonFisk wrote:
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and what is your idea of the alternative that 'so many people' should be doing, WilsonFisk?

Merle


If you haven't noticed there are many who post reguarly on these forums so I don't understand the need to use inverted commas when i said 'so many people'. And your question, without basis, presupposes that I am denigrating the lifestyle of highly active, state dependent forum users. I can appreciate how such folk can be sensitive to criticism given certain views about state leeches, but don't misinterpret my question/comments. I was simply asking a question because I am curious and if someone doesn't want to answer because it's none of my business then fine.


That term "state leeches" is an interesting one.

Even if people are posting a lot, well, people don't work 24 hours a day. They could very well be posting when they aren't working. A high post count does not necessarily= a "state leech".


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17 Feb 2008, 8:17 am

(Time to starve the Troll guys [and girlz]). I'd be interested to know what you all think of the "Big Brother" thread in the "Autism in the News" forum on Autism Speaks board.


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17 Feb 2008, 9:52 am

Who_Am_I wrote:

That term "state leeches" is an interesting one.

Even if people are posting a lot, well, people don't work 24 hours a day. They could very well be posting when they aren't working. A high post count does not necessarily= a "state leech".


Don’t misconstrue the context in which I used that term. I was simply stating that state dependent folk are probably more liable to misinterpret a comment to an opinion that embraces such a term.

I have made no comment on whether a high post count “= a state leach” but you have.

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That’s quite insulting. I ask an honest question and am accused of being a troll. If you don’t like the question for whatever reason then you have the right to not answer, which you have done. End of story. I realise the question might be interpreted as me implying something about state benefits, which in my posts since I have tried to clarify.
Jeez, it’s really surprising how easily people can misinterpret what you’re saying. Story of my life :( .



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17 Feb 2008, 10:15 am

Here's my honest opinion. And if anyone tries to flame me, I'm not about to argue back as is much too early right now.

I support what Autism Speaks is doing. I think it'd be great if they found a cure for autism. If you guys don't want to take the cure, that's fine. No one is making you. But there are people out there who would love it. Since I'm diagnosed with NVLD rather than being on the autistic spectrum, I guess I don't have anything to worry about. However, for a lot of you on the spectrum, I just have three words: get over it. It's not like they're going to come hunt you down and force you to choose between being cured or getting killed. So if you don't like it, at least try to stop making such a big deal out of it. :roll:



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17 Feb 2008, 10:28 am

I think that a cure would be a step back to the Holocaust. If they were to find a cure, than we would all be forced to take it. I also don't care for the videos that 'Autism Speaks' use. They're an insult to most of us, and they're especially an insult to me. A five year old had his diaper changed, after a second accident. Big deal! Who says that he won't grow up to be a productive member of society? I wear Depends and I'm looking for a job!


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17 Feb 2008, 10:37 am

ebec11 wrote:
KristaMeth wrote:
Paladin_Cecil wrote:
We don't need to be cured, that's the thing!


I do, kthx. Just like you don't want people speaking for you and saying all autism must be cured, I don't want other people speaking for "we" saying that I don't need cured.

Why? I'm just wondering, because I personally don't want to change myself, even with all the negative things I deal with because of AS. It's part of who I am, and the positive stuff makes up for all the stuff I've dealt with in my life.


Well, I've just always had a yearning to do a lot of things that my AS completely cripples me from doing. Especially things that require fine motor skills. I've always been really interested in extreme sports, dirt biking, skate boarding, bmx, etc. I get hurt way too often when I do things like that, I'm just not made for it. So I find it impossible to even work on my motor skills when I'm so afraid of screwing up and getting really hurt (always do).

I like to talk. I like to debate. I like to relate. But I can't find anyone to do that with. Would be nice to be a little less awkward.

My ability to focus only on narrow interests makes it hard for me to concentrate on anything else. I'm afraid to go back to school, though I really want to.

I just feel like there are many more things I have the desire to do but can't, more than I worry about losing my attention to detail or ability to memorize music in great detail, etc.

I know that people can be unique and intelligent, even weirdo's, while still being NT. So I don't really fear becoming some socialite wannabe prom queen or something. I just want to be better able to fulfill all these desires I have to do great things.


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17 Feb 2008, 10:50 am

WilsonFisk wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:

That term "state leeches" is an interesting one.

Even if people are posting a lot, well, people don't work 24 hours a day. They could very well be posting when they aren't working. A high post count does not necessarily= a "state leech".


Don’t misconstrue the context in which I used that term. I was simply stating that state dependent folk are probably more liable to misinterpret a comment to an opinion that embraces such a term.

I have made no comment on whether a high post count “= a state leach” but you have.

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That’s quite insulting. I ask an honest question and am accused of being a troll. If you don’t like the question for whatever reason then you have the right to not answer, which you have done. End of story. I realise the question might be interpreted as me implying something about state benefits, which in my posts since I have tried to clarify.
Jeez, it’s really surprising how easily people can misinterpret what you’re saying. Story of my life :( .


you protest the same things you yourself do. That is called hypocrisy. We don't misunderstand you, we understand you perfectly.
Perhaps others do to, hence it is the 'story of your life'.

Merle



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17 Feb 2008, 11:48 am

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you protest the same things you yourself do. That is called hypocrisy. We don't misunderstand you, we understand you perfectly.
Perhaps others do to, hence it is the 'story of your life'.

Merle


This is getting quite tiresome now. What do you mean "protest the same things you yourself do" because I don't understand how it applies to anything I've said.



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17 Feb 2008, 11:52 am

Autism Speaks primary goal is to advocate an obligatory "cure" for all people with autism...

they dont want autistics to exist..

DOWN WITH AUTISM SPEAKS!! !

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17 Feb 2008, 12:19 pm

WilsonFisk wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
you protest the same things you yourself do. That is called hypocrisy. We don't misunderstand you, we understand you perfectly.
Perhaps others do to, hence it is the 'story of your life'.

Merle


This is getting quite tiresome now. What do you mean "protest the same things you yourself do" because I don't understand how it applies to anything I've said.


like sands through the hourglass, such is the 'story of your life. . . '

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