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27 Jun 2011, 6:04 pm

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The cries the oppressed autistics have literally gone up to heaven. The Earthly slave masters of the autistics have responded with evem more oppression. Now it is even harder for the autistic to find and keep a low paying job let alone a good paying job and more autistics are finding their unemployment benefits running out.


In the current economy its even harder for NTs especially NTs with difficulties to find and keep a low paying job let alone a good paying job and more NTs are finding their unemployment benefits running out.....so must we pretend that autistics are the only one being effected that way?



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27 Jun 2011, 6:05 pm

I were a Boss I would probably hire mostly neurotypicals because they tend to get the most work done. However I would hire at least one autistic even if he were slower because every company needs innovation.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:06 pm

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I were a Boss I would probably hire mostly neurotypicals because they tend to get the most work done. However I would hire at least one autistic even if he were slower because every company needs innovation.


Yeah and what if they just want to do the regular work like everyone else without being expected to innovate something moreso then the other workers.

If I was a boss I would hire mostly weird people because I could not imagine trying to be the one in charge around intimidating normal people.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:11 pm

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Here is what the neurotypicals have in store for us.
1. Slamming us with bad grades at school in order to keep us out of the good colleges.
2. Temporary menial jobs at low pay without any benefits and with long periods of unemployment.
3. The ability to fire us from our jobs at will for even the tiniest infractions and often enough for no reason at all or to make our jobs a living hell if they decide to keep us.
4. Depriving us of our ability to make a living and to provide for ourselves food clothing and shelter.
5. Depriving us of disablity payments by declaring us too high functioning for government support but too low functioning for meaningfull employment.
6. No support for autistics from labor unions but rather constant harrassment and blackballing.

And now the neurotyicals accuse autistics of discrimination if by any chance an autistic adhieves a management position!
First of all even if I wanted to be a total bigot and only hire autistics where would I find the autistic workers? Neurotypicals make up over 90 percent of the workforce. Even if the other 10 percent are autistic they are probably in the closet and are not comming out anytime soon. I would be lucky to get away with hiring one token autistic worker and he would probably not be autistic but jut have some sort of disability so I could meet my quota.


Well I still do not think all NTs are actually conspiring to make people with autism suffer, I mean come on.

well theyve done it in the past this country was built on slavery. the rich lazy people must always have their submissive servants.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

When the economy was good the Neurotypicals became the steady company men while Autistics were always the surplus workers subject to layoffs and firings. In todays economy work is slow but the neurotypical always has the right to get his old job back after he is layed off because he was only temporarilly laid off. The autistic on the otherhand was fired from his old job so he has no right to return to his old job. The autistic must find a new company to work for which is tough in this economy.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

In the real world you must work, follow orders and be friendly. This is reality and not discrimination against people with autism in premise. There are however problems with inclusion in general which might be corrected with social and awareness innovation. The scary persecution in some folks minds at times which are projected here are FALSE.


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27 Jun 2011, 6:15 pm

aspie48 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Here is what the neurotypicals have in store for us.
1. Slamming us with bad grades at school in order to keep us out of the good colleges.
2. Temporary menial jobs at low pay without any benefits and with long periods of unemployment.
3. The ability to fire us from our jobs at will for even the tiniest infractions and often enough for no reason at all or to make our jobs a living hell if they decide to keep us.
4. Depriving us of our ability to make a living and to provide for ourselves food clothing and shelter.
5. Depriving us of disablity payments by declaring us too high functioning for government support but too low functioning for meaningfull employment.
6. No support for autistics from labor unions but rather constant harrassment and blackballing.

And now the neurotyicals accuse autistics of discrimination if by any chance an autistic adhieves a management position!
First of all even if I wanted to be a total bigot and only hire autistics where would I find the autistic workers? Neurotypicals make up over 90 percent of the workforce. Even if the other 10 percent are autistic they are probably in the closet and are not comming out anytime soon. I would be lucky to get away with hiring one token autistic worker and he would probably not be autistic but jut have some sort of disability so I could meet my quota.


Well I still do not think all NTs are actually conspiring to make people with autism suffer, I mean come on.

well theyve done it in the past this country was built on slavery. the rich lazy people must always have their submissive servants.

Well I think there are more then two types of people......not all with aspergers/autism are 'submissive servants' and not all NTs are 'rich lazy people.' My NT cousin is not lazy or rich she does have some minor psychological issues but still NT for the most part.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:18 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
When the economy was good the Neurotypicals became the steady company men while Autistics were always the surplus workers subject to layoffs and firings. In todays economy work is slow but the neurotypical always has the right to get his old job back after he is layed off because he was only temporarilly laid off. The autistic on the otherhand was fired from his old job so he has no right to return to his old job. The autistic must find a new company to work for which is tough in this economy.


I doubt it is that simple, there are pleanty of NTs who have been treated unfairly at jobs....its not like all NTs have perfect lives and nothing ever goes wrong, and its not like all with autism have horrible lives and always face constant discrimination. I mean I did not find out I had aspergers untill I was 21 so all those kids who made fun of me in school where not knowingly picking on someone with AS they where just picking on the weird one.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:19 pm

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In the real world you must work, follow orders and be friendly. This is reality and not discrimination against people with autism in premise. There are however problems with inclusion in general which might be corrected with social and awareness innovation. The scary persecution in some folks minds at times which are projected here are FALSE.


Well except for the people on top....and also I don't know that our society=the real world.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:23 pm

I am on top. However there are rules I must follow and instill in others. From safety laws, accounting and manufacturing procedure. Other then that people have fun. the best kinds of bosses make for a fun work place but also professional which protects jobs. Yet I am also in the business of compassionate and otherwise minority group employment. People with developmental disabilities including autism must make the products whom are a minority. Yet when direct support staff are hired under the agency model a racial minority policy for hiring will transpire even as a small business. A company culture is incomplete in it's manifestation toward the community if it does not comprise the diversity of the community.


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27 Jun 2011, 6:26 pm

1. Work: Unfortunately dreaming and innovation do not count as work but rather as laziness.
2. Following orders: That means following the unwritten and unspoken rules which unfairly change all of the time and being called stupid for asking for any clarification.
3. Being friendly: Some people are not going to like you no matter what you do. I was fired from a job handing out communist flyers because someone complained about me. But it wasn't me it was the fliers that got me in trouble.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:27 pm

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I am on top. However there are rules I must follow and instill in others. From safety laws, accounting and manufacturing procedure. Other then that people have fun. the best kinds of bosses make for a fun work place but also professional which protects jobs. Yet I am also in the business of compassionate and otherwise minority group employment. People with developmental disabilities including autism must make the products whom are a minority. Yet when direct support staff are hired under the agency model a racial minority policy for hiring will transpire even as a small business. A company culture is incomplete in it's manifestation toward the community if it does not comprise the diversity of the community.


I don't mean like that I mean those at the top of our corporate-facist system that most people don't know exists. But yeah that sounds like a good way to run things to me...though I don't quite get the racial minority policy thing did you mean a policy modeled like that which applies to those with developmental disabilities?



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27 Jun 2011, 6:29 pm

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1. Work: Unfortunately dreaming and innovation do not count as work but rather as laziness.
2. Following orders: That means following the unwritten and unspoken rules which unfairly change all of the time and being called stupid for asking for any clarification.
3. Being friendly: Some people are not going to like you no matter what you do. I was fired from a job handing out communist flyers because someone complained about me. But it wasn't me it was the fliers that got me in trouble.


I am not very freindly and I have no idea how I would become that way or if it would even be possible. Many social interactions I have had have added to my lack of friendliness.



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27 Jun 2011, 7:05 pm

1. Work: Unfortunately dreaming and innovation do not count as work but rather as laziness.

:!: :arrow: What a load of nonsense, sorry. In my business I spend 7 days a week working. Creative work requires dreaming and innovation. I poured the first 12,000 candles. Many jobs require creative thinking and thinking of new ways of doing things.


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27 Jun 2011, 7:11 pm

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1. Work: Unfortunately dreaming and innovation do not count as work but rather as laziness.

:!: :arrow: What a load of nonsense, sorry. In my business I spend 7 days a week working. Creative work requires dreaming and innovation. I poured the first 12,000 candles. Many jobs require creative thinking and thinking of new ways of doing things.


Unfortunatly there are some jobs where such things are seen as laziness.....I myself do not feel very creative or innovative but I have been accused of laziness when it is not the case.



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27 Jun 2011, 7:21 pm

and if you were the boss of your own company then you would be able to be as creative as you wanted. you could move society forward by inventing new things.