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17 Aug 2011, 3:22 pm

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a little obtrusive but not a thread jacker,ci is sincere


You are obviously such a kind, genuine person but what ON EARTH is he sincere about?

He just seems to post nonsense, attack people and contradict himself all the time to me.



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17 Aug 2011, 3:26 pm

The only simulation of contradiction that can take place reasonable in what I'd expect from myself is when I speak about my personal beliefs as opposed to a mode of analysis and opinion based on state and federal laws of individual choice rights. I will not have my organization I happened to have founded that has nothing to do with these issues that is about employment attacked by advocates who are known for their ruthless propaganda against those who think different then them. You won't force me, evade others rights under the law and personally while I can understand and agree with some of the things you and the alike speak about as a public relations professional who also has autism I recommend you change your tactics as your loosing potential supports.

Under the law individual dignity as a right also has the right to view autism as a horrible disability apart from oneself. Just the same as an individual has the right to dignity to perceive autism as part of the whole self that cannot be separated. This is the contradictory nature of the law based philosophy I express.


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17 Aug 2011, 3:39 pm

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There's nothing wrong with talking about yourself or disagreeing. It's just that you constantly threadjack and post for the sake of posting, even if you have nothing to contribute.


To be honest, I find the constant attention pimping more annoying...and the fact that he actually doesn't seem to be saying anything at all despite all the words, but that could just be my personal taste...I never really liked Edward Lear either.


ITA.


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17 Aug 2011, 3:53 pm

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as a public relations professional who also has autism.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that is just old fashioned bs...



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17 Aug 2011, 4:23 pm

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ci wrote:
as a public relations professional who also has autism.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that is just old fashioned bs...


Hoo boy. Get ready for a tl;dr ramble from him.


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17 Aug 2011, 4:24 pm

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Hoo boy. Get ready for a tl;dr ramble from him.


My breath is thoroughly bated...



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17 Aug 2011, 4:49 pm

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ci wrote:
as a public relations professional who also has autism.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that is just old fashioned bs...


If you can't even respect people with autism when they are employed how will you ever be respected as a person with autism? Or do you really have autism?


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17 Aug 2011, 4:53 pm

Delirium wrote:
Zeraeph wrote:
ci wrote:
as a public relations professional who also has autism.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that is just old fashioned bs...


Hoo boy. Get ready for a tl;dr ramble from him.


Thats because you fail to respect opinions other then your own and degrade others in order to get them to agree with you by using their self-esteem. In return you will have a loss of respect for your own opinions and those who share your opinions. Sometimes I wonder if people represent a side who then intend to fail that side.


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17 Aug 2011, 4:59 pm

Zeraeph wrote:
ci wrote:
as a public relations professional who also has autism.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that is just old fashioned bs...


Ci otherwise known as Nathan Young, has been involved in public relations in his community, with his community Newspaper regarding his efforts to help other disabled people, overcoming his challenges as an Autistic person. His efforts have been applauded within his community:

http://www.humboldtbeacon.com/ci_15974405?source=most_viewed

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Intrigued by high-end candles and the art of candle making, Nathan Young of Fortuna in October of 2006 established Fortuna Candles. Now called Humboldt Candles, his enterprise supplies high quality candles to area retailers and employs only the disabled.

Young, who is a a high-functioning autistic, was able to secure grants and other monies

including funding from the Social Security Administration to start up the business.

”It's disability owned and operated,” he said. “I'm designing products and outsourcing the production.” Humboldt Candles is referred to as a disability-to-work company.

”The Redwood Coast Regional Center by means of the California Lanterman Act provides services to individuals with developmental disabilities,” Young explained. “Centers exists for social well being, job skills training and employment facilitations. Workers are able to label candles, mix lotions and other basic tasks. However without special candle pouring equipment for safety reasons and insurance, I am the only one allowed to pour candles from home. I have poured over 15,000 candles in nearly 4 years,” Young added.

Those who assist Young come from local disability programs like Reaching for Independence in Fortuna. Reaching for Independence is a company that works with young adults who have developmental disabilities who are “ready, willing and able to enter the workforce,” says their website.


Autistic people don't all have the same abilities, but his efforts here should be applauded, and he certainly shouldn't be made fun of because of what he does within the scope of the work he does to help other disabled people.

It might not be the "big time" public relations, but it is public relations never the less, that bring a positive light to those that have autism, within his community, as one able to overcome their challenges to help other autistic people. There are additional public relations examples that he has been involved in, evidenced on the internet, if you need more evidence to be convinced.

Keep in mind, he can't drive, and has behavioral specialists helping him to overcome his impairments. I would imagine he was able to accomplish this because of tenacity above all other qualitites. He understands he needs help from society, but understands there are those that are more disabled than he is that can use his help as well.

It's likely that his life experience and perspective is much different than some that visit this website. Just another autistic person that dares to speak for themselves, regardless of the limitations they were born with.

Something to think about the next time you try to belittle him or his abilities, by calling him names or suggesting he doesn't do what he says he does.



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17 Aug 2011, 5:10 pm

That is not being a "public relations professional" and we all know it...however autistic, we are all, in our spare time, human beings, and some of us are silly and immature enough for fictitious boasting...and when we are, we do *NOT* have a special right to expect people to pretend to take us seriously.

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17 Aug 2011, 5:26 pm

I think well over 10,000 candles sold in a local population is evidence enough in an experiment now getting input from sources that want to carry the work product elsewhere is evidence of a well studied and strategic equality pursuit. I am a professional who has focused on the PR dynamics of the project since the beginning and have achieved everything I've desired by using public relations strategies I've studied and molded into autism awareness pursuits.

So... Tell me not that is makes you dumb, stupid or less of a person what have you accomplished using social strategies in the public (public relations) to create opportunity or change that sticks in the minds of the general public? I'd hope that you could use my example to believe in yourself to create change for yourself and others when needed to have more hope in life.

My all about me is to help people in my same, similar or even less included circumstances. People care, this is America and people will help us take the next steps needed symbolically, in awareness and help us become much more respected as human beings other then simply an awareness about a label about a label and not a whole person which most have never seen a person with autism. I've spent years studying for this and spend 7 days a week trying to figure out every potential risk, benefit and potential behavior of the general public in order to achieve these goals. That's public relations even if functioning within a brain in part defined as autism.


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17 Aug 2011, 5:30 pm

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I think well over 10,000 candles sold in a local population is evidence enough


Making a claim like that as evidence of being a "Public Relations Professional" is, in itself, conclusive evidence of not even having a clue what Public Relations is. :lol:



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17 Aug 2011, 5:34 pm

I really just think your bringer something up that is evidence and saying it is not evidence when it is the result of PR. You go from differing opinions to vindictive attempts to destroy progress. As you cannot be proven to have autism I think your potentially just an obsessed haters seeking to well hate and dis-promote. That's why the mainstream does not usually take not proven to be sources as hardened evidence. We will see as we go how many more candles will be produced as the simi-robotics just came in and for 2 years I've been preventing expansion out of the area until NOW.


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17 Aug 2011, 5:39 pm

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a little obtrusive but not a thread jacker,ci is sincere


You are obviously such a kind, genuine person but what ON EARTH is he sincere about?

He just seems to post nonsense, attack people and contradict himself all the time to me.
a lot of things read his post,look this is a autism forum,his posts are repetitive and he lacks p.r.isnt it good we have a autistic advocate.you guy all know underneath it all he is obviously very smart


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17 Aug 2011, 5:45 pm

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a lot of things read his post,look this is a autism forum,his posts are repetitive and he lacks p.r.isnt it good we have a autistic advocate.you guy all know underneath it all he is obviously very smart


I am not disputing that, but he needs to learn to grow up and put that *smart* to some better uses.

I am funny, I don't judge people by *smart*, I judge them by integrity, and right now he is not scoring so very high.



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17 Aug 2011, 5:53 pm

You have no evidence of a lack of integrity thus lack the integrity to make that judgement. Just another underhanded tactic for having the audacity to think and believe differently then you. It goes to show that some that express a tolerance for their diversity do not then respect the diversity that comprises those like them.


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