29 Jul 2020, 8:32 pm
Fnord wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
What we can do is recognize the imbalance in our system and try to make a more equitable world.
Sure, the system is imbalanced. Yes, we should all try to make a more equitable world.Let's start by getting thugs, drop-outs, junkies, and criminals to believe that education, knowledge, and understanding of STEM (or even HASS) courses are essential for the maintenance and growth of a civilized society.
It is impossible to produce a more equitable world when ignorant people are running wild and lawless in the streets.
Pigs arse! <oink>
I'm here to put my snout into the trough of selfish hedonism.
The world did me wrong, and I'm taking everything I can, and bugger anyone else. <snort>
Erm,
Did I say that aloud?
BTW:
Q: What do you give an adolescent pig?
A: Oink-ment.
29 Jul 2020, 9:02 pm
Pepe wrote:
As you could tell by my previous reply to you, I wasn't interested in getting into a political cage fighting match.
However, I have had some caffeine and I a little more energised than usual.
Also, while you seem passionate, you also seem to be a reasonable person, hence my response here.
I'm in Australia.
I haven't been following the BLM in America to a profound degree.
My concerns are what is happening here in Oz.
I am outraged, and that very very rarely happens to me.
I am outraged by the Australian BLM.
I am outraged that the organisers of the Oz BLM are using the American tragedy to further their cause here.
I am outraged that they are corrupting the facts of what happens here in the Australian Corrective Services.
I am outraged at the stupidity of organising a protest in a pandemic.
I am outraged that they are putting vulnerable people's health and lives in danger.
I am disgusted to the point they have destroyed any goodwill I had for the Australia BLM movement.
You may crucify me at your leisure now.
<Pepe lies down on the cross provided, waiting for his hands and feet to be nailed>
However, I have had some caffeine and I a little more energised than usual.
Also, while you seem passionate, you also seem to be a reasonable person, hence my response here.
I'm in Australia.
I haven't been following the BLM in America to a profound degree.
My concerns are what is happening here in Oz.
I am outraged, and that very very rarely happens to me.
I am outraged by the Australian BLM.
I am outraged that the organisers of the Oz BLM are using the American tragedy to further their cause here.
I am outraged that they are corrupting the facts of what happens here in the Australian Corrective Services.
I am outraged at the stupidity of organising a protest in a pandemic.
I am outraged that they are putting vulnerable people's health and lives in danger.
I am disgusted to the point they have destroyed any goodwill I had for the Australia BLM movement.
You may crucify me at your leisure now.
<Pepe lies down on the cross provided, waiting for his hands and feet to be nailed>
I don't wish to crucify you!
My knowledge of racism in Australia is limited to reading an article here and there, so I can't really speak on it, except that it seems fairly clear that racism exists in Australia. Which leads me to wonder why you would find it objectionable that the Oz BLM wish to "further their cause"? Is their cause not reducing racism and the unfair treatment of non-white people by police and the criminal justice system? I would think that would be a cause you would agree with, even if you don't agree with specific tactics or positions of the Oz BLM?Also, in the US, where the BLM demonstrations attracted many thousands of people, this has not resulted in an increase in Covid cases. This is believed to be because demonstrators usually wore masks, and because the virus spreads more easily indoors than outdoors. In the US, people who are against BLM, who are mostly on the political right, are generally also against wearing masks and taking other precautions, so they are much more likely to be spreading the virus. It turns out that demonstrating during a pandemic has not been irresponsible.
29 Jul 2020, 11:32 pm
29 Jul 2020, 11:51 pm
30 Jul 2020, 1:37 pm
bee33 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
As you could tell by my previous reply to you, I wasn't interested in getting into a political cage fighting match.
However, I have had some caffeine and I a little more energised than usual.
Also, while you seem passionate, you also seem to be a reasonable person, hence my response here.
I'm in Australia.
I haven't been following the BLM in America to a profound degree.
My concerns are what is happening here in Oz.
I am outraged, and that very very rarely happens to me.
I am outraged by the Australian BLM.
I am outraged that the organisers of the Oz BLM are using the American tragedy to further their cause here.
I am outraged that they are corrupting the facts of what happens here in the Australian Corrective Services.
I am outraged at the stupidity of organising a protest in a pandemic.
I am outraged that they are putting vulnerable people's health and lives in danger.
I am disgusted to the point they have destroyed any goodwill I had for the Australia BLM movement.
You may crucify me at your leisure now.
<Pepe lies down on the cross provided, waiting for his hands and feet to be nailed>
However, I have had some caffeine and I a little more energised than usual.
Also, while you seem passionate, you also seem to be a reasonable person, hence my response here.
I'm in Australia.
I haven't been following the BLM in America to a profound degree.
My concerns are what is happening here in Oz.
I am outraged, and that very very rarely happens to me.
I am outraged by the Australian BLM.
I am outraged that the organisers of the Oz BLM are using the American tragedy to further their cause here.
I am outraged that they are corrupting the facts of what happens here in the Australian Corrective Services.
I am outraged at the stupidity of organising a protest in a pandemic.
I am outraged that they are putting vulnerable people's health and lives in danger.
I am disgusted to the point they have destroyed any goodwill I had for the Australia BLM movement.
You may crucify me at your leisure now.
<Pepe lies down on the cross provided, waiting for his hands and feet to be nailed>
I don't wish to crucify you!
My knowledge of racism in Australia is limited to reading an article here and there, so I can't really speak on it, except that it seems fairly clear that racism exists in Australia. Which leads me to wonder why you would find it objectionable that the Oz BLM wish to "further their cause"? Is their cause not reducing racism and the unfair treatment of non-white people by police and the criminal justice system? I would think that would be a cause you would agree with, even if you don't agree with specific tactics or positions of the Oz BLM?Also, in the US, where the BLM demonstrations attracted many thousands of people, this has not resulted in an increase in Covid cases. This is believed to be because demonstrators usually wore masks, and because the virus spreads more easily indoors than outdoors. In the US, people who are against BLM, who are mostly on the political right, are generally also against wearing masks and taking other precautions, so they are much more likely to be spreading the virus. It turns out that demonstrating during a pandemic has not been irresponsible.
The hight court has banned the protest due to the pandemic concerns, and people were fined.
Game, set and match.
30 Jul 2020, 10:35 pm
Pepe wrote:
The hight court has banned the protest due to the pandemic concerns, and people were fined.
Game, set and match.
Game, set and match.
I'm not sure what that means.
The large BLM protests were long ago enough that it is now definitive that they did not cause a spike in Covid cases in the cities where they took place (this is both in the US and Australia).
31 Jul 2020, 9:04 pm
bee33 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The hight court has banned the protest due to the pandemic concerns, and people were fined.
Game, set and match.
Game, set and match.
I'm not sure what that means.
The large BLM protests were long ago enough that it is now definitive that they did not cause a spike in Covid cases in the cities where they took place (this is both in the US and Australia).
<sigh>
The belief is that the protestors were responsible for people not taking precautions seriously.
The mindset goes like this: Why should I stay at home, etc, if 10,000 protestors can, errr, protest.
Simples.
31 Jul 2020, 10:44 pm
Pepe wrote:
bee33 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The hight court has banned the protest due to the pandemic concerns, and people were fined.
Game, set and match.
Game, set and match.
I'm not sure what that means.
The large BLM protests were long ago enough that it is now definitive that they did not cause a spike in Covid cases in the cities where they took place (this is both in the US and Australia).
<sigh>
The belief is that the protestors were responsible for people not taking precautions seriously.
The mindset goes like this: Why should I stay at home, etc, if 10,000 protestors can, errr, protest.
Simples.
But you have not said if you are opposed to racism. That's the only issue that I think matters.
01 Aug 2020, 5:15 am
bee33 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
bee33 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
But you have not said if you are opposed to racism. That's the only issue that I think matters.
I think you just want to talk with me.
Totally understandable.
I am, after all, quite a remarkable person, errr, skunk.
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