Should eradicating autism be a hate crime?

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Yes, in your case, you do belong to the group of males, unless you have not entered your gender correctly.


I did not suggest that I was speaking of changing gender... just curing maleness. One cure is quite simple: death. This has happened a few times already - with cures for autism - the autist died.


I believe you confuse breeding with evolution. It is obvious autism is, if anything, favoured by evolution. Certainly, if you believe in the fable of a dire upsurge in autism.

If few autists breed, but there are more (or even the same proportion) of autists in the world, either the autistic genes are dominant or non-autists are badly disadvantaged.

What about those of us who want a cure? Or those of us whose autism was induced early in life, for example by vaccines or environmental toxins? No two autistics are made the same, we're all still individuals...

If you want a cure, then seek one. But what about those of us that don't? I honestly think that, as things are right now, the rest of us would be pressured to be cured, too, at the very least.

Then that would be wrong. I don't personally want to be cured as it doesn't hold me back from anything, but I can totally understand why those who DO want to be cured of it want to be cured, and I don't think anyone should be stopping them from getting that help they so desire. This 'thing' is easier for some of us than others. For example, I'm lucky, I don't suffer any of the digestive co-morbids others do... so how can I tell someone who does that they should just put up with it so that the rest of us can have our way and not have this cure found for fear of a modern-day genocide?

I am misunderstood. Does word ingroup make more sense?

What I had in mind originally was an impression, that some people (not necessarily Aranittara) think in a nationalists-like mindset
that it is group what matters, not individuals. Then it naturally comes that curing autistic people
equals kidnapping group members and is always wrong (for the group), no matter what given individual thinks and feels.
If I got this impression mistakenly, the better.


I do not believe proportion of autists is rising. I can think of more possible causes of autism, but I do not wat to discuss them because they are just that - possibilities.

I think that it should be classified as a hate crime.

This is a guarentee, Le Kiwi. The cure will be forced. The reason is because of the cost to fit the needs of ASD's into government planning and so forth. They'll welcome and force the "out", and the NT world will support it.

Of course it's a moot point, because there isn't a cure.

I do, too, but, if you don't mind me asking, what are your reasons?

Assuming that they don't try to stop it at a pre-natal level.

That's what I'm most worried about.

There's always a way around it. When it gets down to it, everyone with autism is someone's daughter or son, or (when at the fetal stage) a part of a woman's body. You'd just have to hope the parents won't stand for someone forcing something on their child, or that they won't allow a forced abortion... some people are sick and you can't do much about those ones anyway, but there will always be those who would do anything to protect their children. I think in this case the parents would just have to stand up for their children, and we'd have to hope they do it.

Won't happen, Le Kiwi. The public pressure will be too much. The parents will have to hide the children - and how can you do that nowadays? They'll get charged with child abuse and bang goes their defence.

Anyway - there is also the pre-natal situation as observed above.

And you also have people like the vice-president of Autism Speaks, who blatently posted a video where she said, without remorse, that she would have murdered her autistic child if not for the fact that the girl had a sibling.

I'd do anything to protect my child. They can threaten me all they like; they will not be prodding him or her with their toxic trash and they will NOT be doing anything to medicalise them without my say so. Not that I have kids yet, but give it a few years...

I'm training as a naturopathic doctor so hopefully I'll be able to find out the legalities of what you can and can't do to protect your child from that kind of thing within the boundaries of the law. I'm sure someone will know!!

Your words are air. Until, of course, you actually have a child of your own... You've no real idea what you will and will not do for or to your child. None, whatsoever.

... I didn't say I hadn't had experience with children. Like helping raise my young brother. Assumptions, assumptions. Don't be so patronising - I'm not a child.

And I do have a fair idea. I would do anything for my children. And one of those definite things is not vaccinating him/her. I've already discussed this with my partner and we've agreed on it that it's how we want to do things; same goes for me not getting any of those ones they're now trying to force onto pregnant women such as the flu jab, or the HPV one I've been called up about 6 times now.