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27 Jun 2011, 7:30 pm

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and if you were the boss of your own company then you would be able to be as creative as you wanted. you could move society forward by inventing new things.


The only thing I would want to be the leader of would be a cannabis/anti-war on drugs activist group......even then maybe not the leader maybe the researcher and writer of needed documents. But yeah I think a policy change is needed very badly so that is one thing I would want to get involved in if i could find a way. But I know less about political activism then I do about working and potentially moving up at a job and well I am not very good at even keeping a job so that is a bit of an issue.



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27 Jun 2011, 7:33 pm

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I am on top. However there are rules I must follow and instill in others. From safety laws, accounting and manufacturing procedure. Other then that people have fun. the best kinds of bosses make for a fun work place but also professional which protects jobs. Yet I am also in the business of compassionate and otherwise minority group employment. People with developmental disabilities including autism must make the products whom are a minority. Yet when direct support staff are hired under the agency model a racial minority policy for hiring will transpire even as a small business. A company culture is incomplete in it's manifestation toward the community if it does not comprise the diversity of the community.


I don't mean like that I mean those at the top of our corporate-facist system that most people don't know exists. But yeah that sounds like a good way to run things to me...though I don't quite get the racial minority policy thing did you mean a policy modeled like that which applies to those with developmental disabilities?


I was not able to edit this post for grammar but am busy otherwise.

It has been and will for some time be my suggestion to be a diplomat. Those companies you speak of have corporate responsibilities. Innovation allows for them to fulfill those obligations and for for individuals to best benefit from the assistency of corporations. This is why I steer clear of pride advocates because simply can be VERY bad public relations advocates and can effect others who are not otherwise aware and who benefit from compassionate premises without the alternative agenda's.

As far as racial diversity in the employment work force I am speaking of both. Not enough social service employment integration agencies hire enough people that are racial minorities to support individuals with developmental disabilities. It is my belief that organization which comprises a diversity also better does business with a diversity. In context to my organization hiring a director of sales that is Hispanic to train individuals with disabilities on how to do sales, track their progress and to consult them one one individual so they may acquire those skills and whom that also specializes in getting inclusion products into Hispanic grocery stores would be a wise move. Not only can he or she speak the language but he or she as a sales professional relates better to individuals that are Hispanic. Hiring an African American when applicable with relevant experience for public relations work to focus on product integration with focus on broadcasting and event related emphasis of pop / rap music culture and to advise on socio-cultural product labeling might be a wise move for a target group. He or she might advise on how to develop, package or conceptual label a product to target younger individuals interested in certain music types within popular culture and whom might buy aromatic products or jewelry for ladies if it was to co-sponsor music events with product giveaways at the events and raise awareness of equal opportunity products. What if the product brandology made it into a music video and someone that understand that industry and sub-culture if it's their interest as well would better help provide the opportunity to integrate the product and it's employment premise by knowing how to relate to individuals of that target group better like for say pop music.

Otherwise there simply is not enough support worker diversity within work groups is what I'm saying where I live.


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27 Jun 2011, 8:08 pm

and if you were the boss of your own company then you would be able to be as creative as you wanted. you could move society forward by inventing new things.



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27 Jun 2011, 8:39 pm

My boss told me when he fired me that I should have learned the trade first and then I could have been creative. He said I have to learn to crawl before I can walk. In other words only management can be creative but when you become management you no longer have the time to do the actual work.



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27 Jun 2011, 8:46 pm

I designed some atomic rocket pyrotechnics for the heavy metal band Rush but my main contact had a falling out with the band.



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27 Jun 2011, 8:49 pm

well the real issue at heart of most autistic people getting fired is prejudice because they do not needlessly interact. NTs draw pleasure from interacting, the meaningless chatter stimulates them. Your boss didn't draw pleasure from his interactions with you so you got fired. It is not about work, you could be loyal to the death and work day and night, you could invent a time machine, he would still fire you. That is why autistic people need to band together and create our own companies and industries. We need to watch each others backs. As I have said countless times, it is to preserve our autism and it is the only way forward.



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27 Jun 2011, 9:30 pm

As a matter of fact I did invent a time machine or to be exact a telescope that could see into the future on one of my jobs. But neurotypical people either don't care , won't believe it even if you have a phd or are annoyed because they did not think of the idea first because neurotypicals find it annoying to think period.

Neurotypicals love to gossip. At my job they nailed me on false trumped up sexual harassment so many times and made me take sensitivity classes but it wasn't about sexual harassment at all. It was about boasting that they get away with listening to shock jock Howard Stern and boasting about gossiping about all of the illicit love affairs at the hospital. My boss laughed at me when he made me take the sexual harassment sensitiviy class and that very day brought in his Leonardo Divinci nude paintings.



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27 Jun 2011, 9:30 pm

Radical isolationism based on false beliefs would never be allowed in the management of my company. In order to modify real discrimination's behavior you must be diplomatic. In order to progress in awareness and effectiveness you must be diplomatic. The standards of inclusion are as of yet not culturally sought nor expected. In order for this to happen you got to be diplomatic, unrelenting and mutually beneficial in public relations. The cry foul the world is not fair idea is just not going to work. Instead it's about a change of society with cultures help and socially manifesting certain qualities of emotion and this creates resolve. I cannot explain to much but as soon as I see an organization that entails reverse discrimination originating from an individual with autisms mind I will have nothing to do with them. If any sense of revenge is sought against society you have tainted good works.


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27 Jun 2011, 9:42 pm

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As an Autism Supremacist I believe we must fight fire with fire. I think Non Autistics are insecure and some will persecute autistics because of this. We must not allow them to interfere with the actions of autistic people. They must be stopped from legislating against us and trying to cure us. Pre-Natal scanning and abortion must be made illegal to protect future autistic generations. It will be made illegal to take away someones rights and life in an asylum. It will be frowned upon for parents to kill autistic children in the future. Autism supremacy is the only way forward.


Generalizations are never right.

This entire notion of autism supremacy is disturbing. There are numerous organizations comprised of both NTs and people with autism working for proper support and care for people with autism, and your views would be a detriment to all that effort. You show complete ignorance by thinking only high-functioning autism exists, which is implied.

It is already frowned upon if parents kill their child who has autism. There are numerous books that touch upon this subject. How dare you presume that people condone this. Pre-natal scanning is extremely important to catch OTHER genetic disease states, and abortion is necessary to save mothers' lives or in the cases of rape and incest.

Autism is genetic; there are apparently at least 15 genetic markers. The only people claiming to have cures are charlatans and whack-jobs. Can you provide proof that legislative action suppressed people with autism? Americans have the ADA to support people with disabilities of all kinds. NTs and people with autism are constantly striving for better awareness and equality.

As someone who was on the inside of a mental hospital, I can tell you with great pleasure that if you improve enough they let you out. It is not a death sentence or a prison. They would not put you in there without a VERY thorough diagnostic test, because it takes a major case of whatever you have to get in. They don't just round people up and send them there. You have to be very, very sick to get in. But you sensationalize it and want it banned?

Of course, tons of people go around and say they would be gassed if there was a Nazi government. But I can say with almost certainty that I would have been the FIRST one to go. But to sit here and honestly believe that to sit silent and watch you hate-monger this forum is beyond my patience.

If you are really going to push this, I would like to know what your plan is concerning NTs.


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27 Jun 2011, 9:57 pm

If you are really going to push this, I would like to know what your plan is concerning NTs.[b]It has been and will for some time be my suggestion to be a diplomat.[/b]


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27 Jun 2011, 9:59 pm

Did you hear something? It sounds like hypocrisy, but maybe I am just hearing things.


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27 Jun 2011, 10:00 pm

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Did you hear something? It sounds like hypocrisy, but maybe I am just hearing things.
:lol:


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27 Jun 2011, 10:07 pm

Now I hear laughing. I do not understand why it is funny since that is absolute truth. If this person WAS a diplomat (I believe I know whose laugh that is), they surely must not use complex jargon as a way to communicate with someone.


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27 Jun 2011, 10:11 pm

complex jargon :idea:


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27 Jun 2011, 10:13 pm

You know what, it is very obvious that my rambling thoughts and possible delusional thinking is derailing this thread, so I am going to walk away for it. When I get my ears fixed I will come back and defend my opinion.


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27 Jun 2011, 10:14 pm

:lol: :P


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