Neither greater, nor smaller
You have refused to debate items yourself and yet seem to resort to what I'd like to consider exaggeration and a refusal to try to understand what I'm saying by asking questions. Firstly the person did say the R word, secondly ASAN is simply a macro influence in national self-advocacy in the autism community and one in which I'd like to include a wider diversity of self-advocacy opinions within while asking to set aside the abortion issues of the past and thirdly I do not go around accusing others of calling me a Nazi. The fact is the Nazi name calling here has subsided since my and others clear attempts to de-popularize the nonsense but in other social areas like YouTube there has been a history of it though I don't keep up with it to know if it persists.
Yes I am a leader and an effective one. I have no part in the pride movement and simply see much of it as a them vs us complex. I really don't care nor believe your failure to recognize my leadership in context to where I live matters much at all. My agenda is to assure the public does not view effective leaderships as having anything to do with controversial issues such as abortion, anti-NTism and more of the confrontational agenda's that are out right destructive. I strongly believe that this nonsense will render other efforts less effective and alter outcomes other then the more so beneficial self-esteem agenda's of individualized positivity which is good.
I do not want you or others to follow me where I am going in my leadership. Instead I will invite others to benefit from it as I have successfully done already. Keep out of my way and there will be no confrontation. I can assure those who have nothing better to do but be destructive with the potential of progress that the nonsense will not be attached to myself nor will it effect myself in any negative way or others as their behaviors are their own and they own it.
Far to many people suffer from a kind of vindictive mind-set that is destructive to the at large autism community.
Nathan
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Yes I am a leader and an effective one. I have no part in the pride movement and simply see much of it as a them vs us complex. I really don't care nor believe your failure to recognize my leadership in context to where I live matters much at all. My agenda is to assure the public does not view effective leaderships as having anything to do with controversial issues such as abortion, anti-NTism and more of the confrontational agenda's that are out right destructive. I strongly believe that this nonsense will render other efforts less effective and alter outcomes other then the more so beneficial self-esteem agenda's of individualized positivity which is good.
I do not want you or others to follow me where I am going in my leadership. Instead I will invite others to benefit from it as I have successfully done already. Keep out of my way and there will be no confrontation. I can assure those who have nothing better to do but be destructive with the potential of progress that the nonsense will not be attached to myself nor will it effect myself in any negative way or others as their behaviors are their own and they own it.
Far to many people or least the loudest suffer from a vindictive mind-set that is destructive to the at large autism community.
Nathan
QED my previous statement.
Nathan, you just don't get it do you? An effective leader's job is to get people to pursue defined tasks willingly not to get up everybody's nose.
I recommend you watch a few episodes of the Brittas Empire.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss4s1ubQglU[/youtube]
I'd say pride has gotten up peoples noses with abortion name calling and creating hard feelings. I'm simply protecting myself and others from the reckless leadership styles. You are free to support whoever you want. I do not need your specific support.
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Nathan
For the umpteenth time, I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY GROUP, FACTION OR POLITICAL MOVEMENT.
However, having tried and failed to understand your cryptic posts; I am, as a result, sympathetic to any faction or movement that you oppose.
In short, you are too lazy to post in a manner that will elicit support for your cause and are, in effect, the most effective recruiting sergeant that the Pride movement could ask for!
I am not to be blamed for a radicalism that existed prior to my involvement. The blame game is getting old. I have found no one who will openly oppose philosophies of non-violence, unity instead of division in the issue of human rights inclusion and leaving the political agenda's such as abortion issues separate from greater intent. Anger from these issues will not be resolved by me and it has existed for many years. I will see to it that inappropriate merging of the issues when it comes to inclusion will not be considered ethical for the best interest of those who have nothing to do with it as the adversity is not theirs. If you seek to keep these issues center piece to other human rights concerns then you are doing nothing but hurting more then helping. I'd have to recommend that the likes that support the merging of these issues as a way to move forward in human rights progression may be doing so out of supportive anger themselves or for a strategy to undermine the otherwise innocent that have no part in it. I am not the one who created nor devised a response to these original issues. However they should have no part in concerns not having to do with them.
Again I do not need yours or others supports other then those whom I choose. I do not let people affiliate freely. There is too much risk in that given the political hostilities in the autism community.
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You just don't get it do you?
You need to slow your response rate and think before you post.
This response is incomprehensible.
It is likely you don't like what it has to say and just want to infer I am dumb. Instead of calling me lazy why don't you ask questions about what I said as to honestly figure it out instead of being what you call me which is lazy. This conversation is not helpful to accomplishing understanding if you do not desire in the first place.
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I am sure your reversal on me of the nonsense that exist in some others proclamations against the world around them really makes you feel better in the position you have taken. I do have simi-regular meetings in part about how to handle advocacy from individuals expressing violence and other criminal mischief. I've read my criminology and sociology textbooks for my own study. Wholly to me the issues are a mere abstract science in part and the only thing I seek to manifest is constructive progress for the prosperity of others to benefit. Due to the nature of this forum, this conversation and only some relevant issues of specific concern I do not wish to go into greater social theory about how prosperity modifies behavior(s) within groups. It is my belief however that everyone deserves a fair chance and I can do my part in attempting to realize a beneficial change within society to better improve the odds of applicable individuals including myself.
Please no more "You don't understand" bull. I do not propose you are at all think headed. Instead you think your smart by responding like you do and seek to benefit your views by doing so.
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Learn meditation to improve patients so as to have a full conversation by exchanging ideas with logical intents of improving understanding. I too need to learn to be more patient. I suggest you do the same.
Here is an example:
1. What do you mean hire a translator. It was spoken in pure English but a bit advanced.
I recommend you do not believe I am superior to you for speaking in intelligent ways in context to certain subjects. I am not good at allot of things but my narrow interest is figuring these things out. Care to try or are you to go on about this idea that it must be another language and I cannot speak correctly to begin with?
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Here is an example:
1. What do you mean hire a translator. It was spoken in pure English but a bit advanced.
I recommend you do not believe I am superior to you for speaking in intelligent ways in context to certain subjects. I am not good at allot of things but my narrow interest is figuring these things out. Care to try or are you to go on about this idea that it must be another language and I cannot speak correctly to begin with?
Ci
You do not speak in "pure English"; your use of the language is a travesty, An apt rule is to never use a long word when a short one will do.
Long words do not make you appear intelligent; they give the impression of a weak individual who is attempting to cover up an incoherent position by baffling the readership.
In addition, your posts generally do not make grammatical sense. I remain unclear what your position is on many subjects.
In short,, your posts make my eyes bleed!
PS I presume you mean "patience" as opposed to recipients of medical treatment, Have you considered literacy classes?
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I'd propose that you are making mountains out of mole hills and incoherence out of sensible arguments simply because it challenges how you think and perhaps your loyalties. In responding how you have you have evaded reasonable debate and made it all about how you don't understand and thus are incapable and or unwilling as it does not meet your standards yet fail to sensibly ask questions because your to good for it. No I will not call you dumb nor consider myself dumb. Keep on topic and if your eyes really are bleeding and your blood pressure boiling out of your eyes over simple social issues I don't think it's my problem and fault but your mind doing it to you.
I am going to start a topic about negative stereotypes and how to challenge them later. Might you consider participating? A translation will be available upon request.
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Loyalty to your own special interest sympathies and opinions.
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I have neither,I am just looking for ways to improve the lot of aspies.
I do not feel that you have aspies welfare at heart.
I also feel that you had such a traumatic and difficult childhood that your view of the world is warped thus rendering you incapable of leadership or, empathy and the capacity to be an effective advocate.
You are clearly too arrogant to benefit from numerous suggestions that I have made about improving your ability to communicate and sell your message.
Therefore, you are a lost cause as a leader.
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