Is Aspie A Political \ Advocacy Party?

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Well, that's fine with me if you think that way, so long as you have no influence over the decision making and policy making involved with autism research and goals.

Feelings mutual, I can assure you!

Didn't that all turn out nicely?



PS I am I the only one who sees this as a far healthier way of dealing with an irresolveable ideological difference than dedicating the forseeable future to playing back and forth "wreck the head"?

I see that you have a problem with reciprocating politeness with anyone you disagree with and you also make up ghost charges: Creepy and dark. What was creepy and dark? I don't like cure but those were some good oints. Low-functioning people are suffering and will suffer and they want it to stop. What's creepy is that you'd ignore what he said to make a one-sentence hit.

Since quite a few of your comments are spent ridiculting people you don't agree with without reason I doubt it.

Last edited by Gedrene on 11 Sep 2011, 7:28 am, edited 1 time in total.

Please stop being so rude Gedrene.

I found what dalurker said creepy, and it reinforced my original position...that's it, my entire, actual reaction to (I have no idea where you get the word "dark" from). I am under no obligation to invent a different reaction because you say so.

You have absolutely no right to try and micromanage what I say.

Aye, I am so rude that I ask for proof of something. How dare I.

But I mean you are obviously always polite and don't use pointless ridicule:


Your actions are hypocritical. Are you satisfied with that example or do we need to post up all the times when you use emoticons along with transparent, plastic attacks?

It reminds of the time when you told me in PMs that wikipedia is unreliable because it is 'monitored' by people 'like aghogday', but nonetheless used it when you later just pasted wikipedia links in to your argument to suggest things about people who disagreed with you.


So I have no right to say 'what is creepy?' because that's what I did. I didn't even say you were wrong, never mind tell you what to do: so please quit whining that I am. By the way: that's advice. You can continue to keep making up rubbish if you want.

I went on to say that he made some good points. I also said it's creepy that you'd ignore him and just jibe him by saying what he said is creepy. Unlike you I use evidence when I say why I believe something. Again, nothing suggests telling you to do anything. Maybe it's you who should stop trying to 'micromanage' and 'finesse' people by bending reality to your will.

Your attempt to presume that I am trying to control you by saying these things sounds more like the ranting of a conspiracy theorist, presuming that people who don't agree with them are 'in on it'. Please don't reinforce that hopefully untrue opinion.

Last edited by Gedrene on 11 Sep 2011, 7:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

What I actually told you was that "Autism" articles on Wikipedia were unreliable and distorted because they are rigidly controlled and spun by a PR team answerable to political and commercial interests. (There are plenty of other categories edited in a similar way, on a commercial basis, where I am aware of it I would never cite those articles.)

I have not posted WP Autism articles.

What I also told you is that I will not be participating in any of your arguing for the sake of arguing whatever personal slights and distortions you come up with.


My position on that remains unchanged...so you will have to wait for others to come online to be able to resume your beloved "bait and switch". Because I am not going to play.

That isn't what you said. You said Wikipedia was edited by people 'like aghogday'. There was no presumption of special interests anywhere, which by the way is a presumption because like anything else you have said in this page: I have no proof for what you say.
I have heard some of people talk about it though, again with the slimmest of weak evidence: So another conspiracy theory for the pile.


You are the only one playing games by making up all these things Zeraeph.


As for what I originally said: What is creepy about what dalurker said? And if you do actually stop inventing charges against me and feel like being an adult don't just say 'everything'. Reporting proof isn't proof.

That is a simple lie on your part.

Now craving the mods indulgence, I am going to spell this out in very simple words.

I do not want to waste my time and energy having pointless circular arguments with a teenager who hasn't got a clue what he is talking about and cares less, even about honesty, as long as he can draw some attention and a fleeting illusion of companionship to himself.

...and playing silly games, maligning me, and twisting my words to try and force me to play along is just bullying, and that will never work with me.

No, that's actually what you said.
Do you want me to quote it from the PM?


I know, you do have a craving that the mods will actually believe all the things that you can't prove.


Since when does my age have anything to do with my argument? You also referred to my sex before disparagingly. Ageist and sexist. A winning combination. You are the only one who is trying to draw this back to your shallow attempts to demonize me. I, however, want you to give a reason why you think what the previous poster's remarks were 'creepy', yet you keep avoiding this and trying to make some absurd accusation about some attempt to control you. Quit whining about me controlling you when all I have done is said 'where's the proof?'. Your holier-than-thou attitude has no basis in reality.


You know for being the older one here, and making sure everyone knows about it, you're the one flippantly accusing me of things you can't prove. It's childish to do so.

If 'maligning' you is telling you that you insult anyone I disagree with, then I am not sorry for telling the truth. If playing 'silly games' is telling you not to make accusations about people you are arguing with, then I am not sorry for telling the truth. If 'twisting your words' is quoting what you said more accurately then you do, I am not sorry for telling the truth. If telling you that I said 'where's the proof?' is forcing you to play along, then I am not sorry for telling the truth.

Despite, your and ci's complaints about circular arguments and how they are boring, you never fail to keep ignoring what I say and insinuating bad things about my nature and of course just replying ad infinitum the same scandalous, unproven accusations about others. It's not my fault that I then reply patiently.

And to be honest if anyone replied with as much unfailing continuance as I did to your vastly mistaken rumblings you would be arguing with more people than I ever did as they pick apart your unproven claims about what they say, what they are and what they mean to do.

^

By the way Zeraeph, I do appreciate that he was making rubbish up about how you feel too.

Gedrene,

I am sorry, but some day you are going to have to learn, for your own good, that you cannot browbeat, bully and manipulate everybody into playing along with you, as and when you please

When you have something intelligent to say that relates to an actual topic, not threadjacking or attention seeking I may respond, provided I actually have something to say in my own right, but for the rest, I think you are going to have to wait for someone who likes playing the same game you do.

Madam, I can on the other hand tell you to give evidence, not contradict yourself and not go speculating in to other's intentions. Maybe you should learn your own lessons. Maybe you should take your own advice. As you can see on the last page you said you wont 'play games'. Well stop playing games. Quit saying that the question 'where's the proof?' is somehow commanding you to do anything and if you really can't take the idea that the blame lies at your feet then don't post.

Quit insinuating things and thinking you can get away with it! It's hypocritical coming from someone telling me not to browbeat, bully or manipulate.