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19 Feb 2012, 7:07 am

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I have just come upon this thread and would like to ask a question of those of you who are contributing here:

I own a beautiful, 100 acre, semi-remote piece of property in the Sierras of N. CA. It would be, I think, a fantastic site for a Autist retreat, eco-village, with garden, small scale live-stock and natural materials constructed little cabins and shacks for strange types like us to hang out kind of place. I am already involved many years in small scale farming and have a lot of building skills. I am on the verge of having to sell the place since I am broke and not seeing another way out. Inventor told me about Kickstarter as a crowdfunding resource and now the gears are turning.

How many of you would really want to and be able to come to the Boondocks here and help build such a place? Say, if I got funds from Kickstarter to kickstart the thing?


1.first, i think you underestimate the social difficulties.
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2.also, keep in mind, we are very diverse lot, like NTs. They will be anything from far left to far right, idiot to genius, etc.... Various people will have various ideas abut what the purpose should be.

3. What kind of money would be needed?

4.I think i want to be anywhere then where i am now.

5. The most important question of all about your place...... do you have broadband? :)


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19 Feb 2012, 7:49 am

* What climate?
* Is it possible to farm without working to death?
* No poisonous activities nearby? (like gas cracking, fumes, former ground spills etc)
* Can you make a living there?
* Access roads?
* Insane laws?
* Electric grid access?
* Fiber or copper access at reasonable price?

One might need to pre-screen applicants?

I still think selecting a few places in towns where aspies simple move in such numbers that they essentially "own" the street is simpler.



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19 Feb 2012, 10:54 am

Over in North America, you can actually afford to build a viable territorial micronation. Here in the UK, we have to get a bit more creative...

Let's take over a street and then, rather than leaving it like that, extend the houses downwards. If they're terraced houses that are back to back, maybe even build an underground street. For our Hidden Government HQ (TM), buy a townhouse and then put in 10 basement levels for government functions...

Anyway, I get carried away. I think you should go for it, though get a group together first, probably.



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19 Feb 2012, 11:35 am

It's not a micronation until the police has to establish an extradition treaty to even have any reach whatsoever 8)



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19 Feb 2012, 11:42 am

Who is going to pay for it all?



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19 Feb 2012, 1:20 pm

Fnord wrote:
Who is going to pay for it all?


Check out Kickstarter, for starts. Will respond to other comments a bit later.



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19 Feb 2012, 1:27 pm

emtyeye wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Who is going to pay for it all?


Check out Kickstarter, for starts. Will respond to other comments a bit later.


I think, thats a bit too optimistic.


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19 Feb 2012, 1:46 pm

Quantum_Immortal wrote:
emtyeye wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Who is going to pay for it all?


Check out Kickstarter, for starts. Will respond to other comments a bit later.


I think, thats a bit too optimistic.


Then I'd rank you as being a bit too pessimistic.



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19 Feb 2012, 2:32 pm

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19 Feb 2012, 2:32 pm

emtyeye wrote:
Quantum_Immortal wrote:
emtyeye wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Who is going to pay for it all?
Check out Kickstarter, for starts. Will respond to other comments a bit later.
I think, thats a bit too optimistic.
Then I'd rank you as being a bit too pessimistic.

Then I'd rank you both for not answering my question.



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19 Feb 2012, 3:11 pm

Fnord wrote:
emtyeye wrote:
Quantum_Immortal wrote:
emtyeye wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Who is going to pay for it all?
Check out Kickstarter, for starts. Will respond to other comments a bit later.
I think, thats a bit too optimistic.
Then I'd rank you as being a bit too pessimistic.

Then I'd rank you both for not answering my question.


Did you Google and find Kickstarter, Fnord? It is a way to raise money - not loans or investment money, donation money for projects of all kinds. Known as "crowdfunding". Instead of philanthropic minded people giving money to big charity organizations where most of the funds support the CEOs and their three martini lunches and little gets to the intended receipeint, Kickstarter lets a person or organization make a direct appeal to people who want to donate to raise money with little going to the middle man.

So in addition to what I posted above, let's say said person also put up an appeal on Kickstarter for money for building materials, etc. and raised money that way. Apparenly, Alex Plank used crowdfunding to start WP. Go check out the site.



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19 Feb 2012, 3:25 pm

CosTransform wrote:
* What climate? Answer:

* Is it possible to farm without working to death? Answer:

* No poisonous activities nearby? (like gas cracking, fumes, former ground spills etc)

* Can you make a living there? e.

* Access roads? Answer:

* Insane laws? Answer:

* Electric grid access?

* Fiber or copper access at reasonable price?

One might need to pre-screen applicants?

I still think selecting a few places in towns where aspies simple move in such numbers that they essentially "own" the street is simpler. Suggestion: Move to Silicon Valley, highest Aspie density in world.



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19 Feb 2012, 3:43 pm

By Jove and Great Scott, this may even be done! It's actually starting to look feasible... what's the next step?



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19 Feb 2012, 5:10 pm

Magneto wrote:
By Jove and Great Scott, this may even be done! It's actually starting to look feasible... what's the next step?


For any with serious interest in this proposal, send me a PM.



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20 Feb 2012, 5:20 pm

This could work, it is in a food producing area, and up and inland from the path of The Big One that is going to remodel California, Front Row Seats!

Being in the National Forest makes for few neighbors, mostly deer.

It would not support a large group, perhaps 25, in a Private Park. Three acres per person air space, enough water, gardens,

$10,000 per person, half down, some assembly required,

An acre of pond, an acre of garden, which can be expanded.

Middle west coast, reachable, Amtrak near.

Worth doing just to have a fallback Place.This Is 2012,

As Mark Twain said, "Buy land, they dont make it anymore."

I would expect the beaches to come nearer, and after Godzilla rises and ravages the surviors, wandering bands of Pagan Lust wear out, a decade or two of stagnant real estate prices, it will again become a desireable place to live.

I will take 1/25, so do I hear two dozen Seconds?



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