word to replace nurotypical

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All Aspies are autistic as evidenced by the term Autism Spectrum Disorder. All people on the spectrum differ in terms of their ability to function, not on whether they are autistic. The DSM V has codified this reality such that now they do not even use the term Aspergers and regard all of us as being on the spectrum.

So why does everyone keep calling themselves Aspies? even I do...

It was basically turned into a label of self-proclaimed superiority, which is why some are mad it's all called autism now. Doesn't bother me at all, never liked the term. I always considered myself autistic, so nothing changed. The problem is that many people being diagnosed or considering themselves on the spectrum refuse to look at the whole picture and use it as a poor excuse to exhibit a pretty primitive mentality of "I'm so different while everybody else is all the same! They suck an I don't!". Isn't that called puberty and applies to anybody? Why use a most likely neuophysiological condition as an excuse to judge mankind and put yourself on a pedestal?

How about zombies as they are slow when compared to us?

Or the implication that they were normal...

What exactly do you mean?

I do agree with you, but I was hoping to get an explanation from Slave. Sometimes the best way to educate people about their personal bias is to get them to justify why it's necessary. I just wanted him to justify why it's necessary for people on the high end of the ASD spectrum to perpetuate the myth they have a seperate diagnosis because they can largely pass themselves off as superior to the rest of the autistic community.

I don't even think the problem is an opinion of being superior, but the reasons people have for these opinons. Simply put, if you have good reasons for being racist, homophobic, elitist towards others or whatever...it's fine for me as long as people don't pull these opinions out of their a** without using their brain at all. And I've never read any meaningful explanation of people talking bad about NTs or differentiating themselves from lower-functioning autistics. Just pointless rambling. I mean if they are so rational and smart, why doesn't it show in their posts at all?
And it's actually bad for the spectrum as a whole if "NTs" read that crap.

Chimps?

Their behaviour mirrors that of chimpanzees very closely with all the hierarchy stuff, aggression and making loud whooping noises

It's impossible not to be constantly reminded of the similarities

A chimp can rip your arm off and an NT can do serious damage to you as well if sufficiently angered

As with chimps, giving them a wide berth is usually the best option in my opinion

You can watch them in their natural habitat on reality TV programmes like 'Jeremy Kyle' from the safety of your settee

And therefore I will steal this word and it will be mine and I will call it fluffy.

Or wooly. Whatever it likes.

They're all sheeple.

Yeah we all know "NTs" are chimps, Jews are filthy rich and secretly rule the world, n*ggers are worhtless filth who deserve to be enslaved, women should stay at home and keep their mouth shut, catholics are child molesters and muslims all terrorists...did I miss anything?

On a more serious note, if you ever wanted some proof for the fact that there is no positive correlation between Asperger's and intelligence, just read some of the posts on this board (in before fluid intelligence crap...). It's such a joke, not every non-autistic hates people on the spectrum. Conversely, some posters on here create their little superior AS-dream world and hate on the rest of the world. It's even worse than "them". Some might hate things they're not used to, but that's still better than hating everybody.
There are lots of "NTs" which are more talented, intelligent and successful than many on the spectrum could ever dream of. And there's the opposite, too. Why rely on dividing reality into good/bad, black/white, AS/NT?
Deal with it, "you"...or "we", since my diagnosis apparently turns me into the next step of evolution are by no means superior to anybody out there.
It might hurt to realize it, but yes there are lots of "normal" people out there who have all the talents you and I might be proud of, and on top of that they're more adept at social skills (if they want to, it's their choice) and have no sensory integration issues or other symptoms of autism. The easy cop-out is to say AS=special, everybody else=inferior monkey-like creature.
But it's nonsense. Just complete nonsense, and you'd expect better from people who claim to be superior to NTs (a term nobody can even define properly)...Many posts are an exact copy of the simplistic and ignorant thinking you accuse your hated NTs of. You're not better than them. Now that might sound like a crazy idea...but maybe it's because we're all human?

I'm entitled to my own thoughts on the matter

If you want to have a Love-In with the NTs go right ahead, just don't expect me to join in

I will always reserve the right to feel superior to anyone who acts more like a chimp than a human being and these are the people I am referring to

Obviously people who act in a decent, respectful, civilised manner aren't included in the chimp metaphor whatever their neurology - that obvious goes without saying!

It goes without saying? Still you managed to contradict that notion just a sentence before. Good job!
And the "love-in"- statement is exactly the same as saying "Then marry your stupid ni**er/muslim/homo/whatever".
And that's called 21st century...pathetic!

Also, do you have any proof that the traits you've associated with chimp-like behaviour are linked to being non-autistic at all?
The statement "I'm entitled to my opinion" doesn't make any sense by the way, you should be entitled to facts and sound arguments, not the things you wish to be true.

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How so?

Do you like mixing with people who are loud, obnoxious and dangerous then?

Can you give any facts for associating the attributes loud,obnoxious and dangerous to neuroanatomical differences between autistics and non-autistics? Also, any proof that these can't be found on the spectrum as well? How did you come to your conclusions? I hope you haven't been just as irrational as the dreaded NTs...

I just know what I observe from my own experiences and that is that people who are neuro-diverse are more likely to be civil and respectful towards me than those who are not, hence logically I try to avoid the non neuro-diverse

It's a cause and effect thing based on how people behave towards me

None of the people I associate with have ever murdered anyone or beaten a person up outside a pub - the vast majority of people who do this kind of thing are NT hence I see them as people I prefer to avoid

Basically we both reject each other so we don't mix and I am glad of it