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15 Apr 2013, 10:26 pm

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I didn't say it would cause "more" abuse, only that people would then know where to go if they were planning something, whereas before they wouldn't necessarily have the knowledge on where there are those on the spectrum.
I do agree that location is an important role, but it's not as simple as picking a plot of land, a prospector has to check the land for viability, and if it's not stable in any way, you can't build on it. Furthermore, there's not enough data for experts to conclude one way or the other right now because of their criteria, but based on what we know already, we can make an assessment ourselves and determine whether or not we feel society is safe, and a lot of people don't think so, the fact that they're in hiding proves that.
Right now we're all scattered and anonymous, the hardest targets to hit. But if we were all localized in one big community, that would give a face and location to what people have hostile feelings for, and that can lead to very unsafe situations for us.

Granted, however, if we had some kind of security gate that was rather inpenetrable, then sure it might work. But at that point, wouldn't it feel like a garrison?

I don't deny there could be benefits, I'm just pointing out some very real possible problems that I think should be addressed.

Truth be told, I got ahead of myself. My current thinking, which post-dates most of this thread, is towards an "Urban" Aspie community, where there would be a functioning law enforcement system to enforce the rule of law. I don't think "one big community" is feasable or possible at this stage.

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15 Apr 2013, 11:34 pm

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Well, I mean, it's a good idea, but yeah it's a bit of a process to get to the point where there is a full community complete with services. In the long run it might be possible, but it's not something that I think could happen anytime soon, given everything that currently is.
I don't discredit the idea entirely, I just see it a bit realistically.

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16 Apr 2013, 12:31 am

Jaden wrote:

Rome was'nt built in a day. When you say "full community", not too many places were built from start to finish with everything in place.

I think the first one will be an "AspieBURG", or Aspie neighberhood, with Co-located Aspie-friendly businesses to provide employment, and Aspie-owned apartment/co-op buildings.

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16 Apr 2013, 2:26 am

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Agreed, that's why I posted security concerns as well.

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14 May 2013, 7:26 pm

I think that it is a horrible idea.It won't be a good place, it will turn into an asylum where people who are autistic will be shipped of to and treated horribly because people who are NT will not want to deal with us.That will also seperate us from society and seperataion is the root of ignoance and bigotry. People will make up there own idea about us because more and more people will never meat a person who is autistic if we are seperated.

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14 May 2013, 10:08 pm

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May I ask how would people be "shipped off to" a voluntary community?

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27 May 2013, 6:43 pm

I read about a new (possible) example for an "Aspie Acres"-type concept.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pap ... -residency

I'm still reading the site, but other than Acrosanti, this is the closest example I've seen. Someone with more knowledge of Kickstarter would have to explain to me how they got the money.

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30 May 2013, 11:54 am

Some sort of quota system might be necessary for a viable AS community, otherwise you might end up with several men for every one woman and that wouldn't be fun for either side, unless you intend to adopt polygamy

Vetting by careers could help to an extent too, for example you could give prior to jobs rarely taken by AS people but which are necessary for a small community to run. I have to say overall it would be quite an interesting social experiment, I'd be particularly interested to see if the children produced from the community would be more likely to be AS, or how NT children brought up in an AS majority environment would act, whether they would imitate us, end up with some AS-like traits or just turn out like any ordinary child?

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01 Jun 2013, 9:53 am

If an autistic community had a shortage of women, free love could be implemented.

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01 Jun 2013, 10:24 am

The "objections", if one calls them that, are the same objections that could be thrown at pretty much every frontier or resource extraction community (see: Fort McMurray, Canada).

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14 Jun 2013, 12:57 am

Before the development of a physical community centre is established, shouldn't we create an aspie social protocol first?
I'm new here...
Has this been discussed/resolved already?

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22 Jun 2013, 10:37 pm

Pepe wrote:

Before the development of a physical community centre is established, shouldn't we create an aspie social protocol first?
I'm new here...
Has this been discussed/resolved already?

Pepe, I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean by "social protocol". Could you give an example?

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23 Jun 2013, 3:25 am

AgentPalpatine wrote:

Pepe wrote:

Before the development of a physical community centre is established, shouldn't we create an aspie social protocol first?
I'm new here...
Has this been discussed/resolved already?

Pepe, I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean by "social protocol". Could you give an example?

Aspies and NTs work on a fundamentally different bio-psychological operating system...
Each neurology has it strengths and weaknesses...
Each has a different emphasis as a result.
For example, Aspies are known to be, on average, more inherently honest than NTs, more interest in details, etc......

Since we have difficulties with intuitively understanding NT social "etiquette", perhaps this might be a good place to start in defining autism oriented social protocols...
Perhaps part of our aspie social protocol might include:
Saying what you mean and damned well meaning what you say rather than having to "read between the lines"...
Perhaps "white lies" should incur a minor custodial sentence?

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23 Jun 2013, 9:28 am

Pepe wrote:

AgentPalpatine wrote:

Pepe, I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean by "social protocol". Could you give an example?

Hehe. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your views), getting a consensus on "social protocols" with individuals from a range of nations, cultures, and social backgrounds, appears to be impractical.

There have been discussions of "Aspie Culture" in the past, but I'm not sure you would consider any of them on point to what your post is referencing.

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08 Jul 2013, 1:13 am

There are some great foundations for autism.

http://www.autism-world.com/index.php/2 ... or-autism/

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11 Jul 2013, 1:59 pm

Pepe I don't think you will get consensus on Social Protocol.

I would like to see this happen for AS community only. Where we can self rule and self govern ourselves. It is in New Mexico.

MI has certain laws that will make hard for self govern because they can over ride person vote with a city Manager plus the Job issue.

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