A Collaborative Aspie Project?

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Last edited by emtyeye on 24 Feb 2012, 6:26 am, edited 1 time in total.

Have you thought about selling it and finding cheaper land elsewhere as an alternative just in case? In CA you are probably paying a premium.

Perhaps for the crowdsourcing we could appeal to WP members to start a FB movement or similar at other social networking sites?

Can you prove your ownership? Going live on TV with your idea will get you alot of attention and substantiate your claim. People from CA eat the green culture up IIRC.

The backup plan will also let donors know that if they don't succeed, the money will still go to a similar project.

Any running water? Can we go hydro electric?

I'd plan to raise more than the 100K... Go for enough to buy one of those little kubota things or one of those OSE bull dozers.

Just some ideas.

At $2,000 an acre, only desert cost less. 160 miles to the coast, the Bay Area economy. Isolated, but close to Amtrak, and services. Hospitals and such.

Clear Title. Taxes paid to date.

Funding includes Factor e Farm machines. The compacted earth block machine, and tractors. well drill is an attachment, same for fork lift, loader. This can mass produce earth blocks pressed to 7,500 psi.from the machine to the wall, ready to build. Natural building is approved in California, adobe, straw bale. Green Building started there.

There is a creek running through it with a drop of hundreds of foot, high energy water. It has a well, solar powered pump, and stock tanks spread over the property. It has several springs, and a one acre pond.

It has an acre of partly developed garden.

All funds are held in escrow till the deal closes, and are returned if it does not.

It is in the Mother Lode Gold Country. National Forest on three sides, which is open for non mechanical gold mining, panning, sluce,

Real estate seems to have bottomed, I expect it to lay there for years, but California has more people than Canada, big market, and a big and diverse economy. Arkansas has no economy, and will not when there is a recovery. Go where the action is.

It needs some work, but I like it.

Perhaps you could sell it off piecemeal to interested people? That way, you can raise the money required to pay off your debts while still retaining a lot of the land and making the vision real. Plus, it deals with and legal issues one might find... for example, Inventor might by 10% at $20k, to get the ball rolling, while I'd consider an acre at $2k (hmmm, what's the Pound-Dollar exchange rate like?). It also gives people a tangible interest in seeing the project to frutition.

Not really.

Here is 520 acres of land in NY & good quality house & outbuildings for $1243 pa

http://www.landandfarm.com/property/His ... rm-356785/

Zoning prohibits sub-division.

It sounds beautiful! I would love to see this happen...and soon. It think it is an awesome idea. Still working on convincing mom.
I am allergic to poision ivy...but thats everywhere. a good shower with clairfing shampoo as body soap is a good preventative.
Up in Minnesota, they had a group of plants called "itchy weed" was like poision ivy, but after the itchy welts went away, these red dots appeared and soon afterwards the top layer of skin peeled. The trick with poison ivy is dont scratch cause it will spread.

Anyway...looking good!

Jojo

Last edited by jojobean on 24 Feb 2012, 6:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well that's crap then. Perhaps, to raise money, you could transfer ownership to a holding company and sell shares to interested parties?

That is selling securities which is highly regulated. The legal is worth as much as the land.

Upstate New York is nice, two seasons, Winter and the Fourth of July.

Having a hard winter is like half time use, with heating bills.

There are some deals in North Dakota.

It has to form as a buyers club. Manage the whole as a single property.

The best site for a well, garden, has to be held in common.

It has to be a single plan for water and sewer, roads, housing sites.

It is an Aspie Country Club, where you could live with an outside income, private business, I do mail order, but finding employment is unlikely, and the commute would be killer. Vacation, seasonal, reclusive isolation. The winter rains can close the place for a month. Sometimes a little rain, sometimes a lot. 70" during the winter. Every little creek turns white water, and the roads are closed. it is like being snowed in.

While it does have a hot dry summer, it is wet sometimes, unlike the Fire Zone of the south, dry all the time, hot, wind, thick brush for miles that can explode into fast moving flames, The mountains are moist, with exposed rock, and The Forest Service watches for fire.

Around LA, and to the east, dry brush, near desert. This region, farmland, kept clear, and winter rains. I never heard of any fires north of the Bay Area. Bigfoot sightings are more likely.

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Anywhere you go there is going to be some drawback or danger to contemplate.

Last edited by emtyeye on 24 Feb 2012, 6:28 am, edited 1 time in total.

Yeah I think I'd rather live further south, better weather, longer growing seasons. I don't like cold. I'd rather have really hot summers and a mostly subterranean living area. I see a nice area in Mexico that would make a great place to start.

This brings up a dream I had where my aunt owned a small trailer in a retirement community and had a huge underground apartment complex that she rented out spanning some 25k feet of living space on multiple levels.

Though let's think about what we could do with desert and a recyclable water supply and some plastic green houses...

Plastic green houses with hydroponics cover the land, black buckets in white buckets to keep water cool. We have scarce water supplies, but recycle every drop with on site facilities like on a space station. Maybe a limited well or connection to seawater for desalinization in covered black lakes/ponds. Extra water gets pumped off into a managed forestry area where we cultivate small parts of desert into air-able land.

Subterranean living quarters with structures dotting the surface to allow sunlight in...

I have more ideas, but these are just a few.

Underground habitats get on the travel channel because they are rare. It is far more expensive to excavate down than it is to build out.

Really, an aspie community may actually be economically viable now, after 4 years of economic decline. It would have to start out small or with a decent chunk of cash as seed capital. As Inventor pointed out, we don't have to figure it all out ourselves when we can pick the talent of the rest of the world.

As for the issue of possible disagreements, I'm fairly sure that any community has disagreements. This is'nt East Berlin, people are free to vote with their feet.

They should collaborate on building an eco-system in which they could thrive, for the betterment of not just themselves, but for NTs as well as the world at large.

StillSwimming, by "EcoSystem", I believe that you are talking about a support structure of employment, therepy, education, and related services, correct?

One way that we could achieve such an eco-system (or support structure, as I would call it) would be to have an Aspie community. First, it would be cheaper and easier to bring supporting services in when there are multiple users of such services. If it's housing that's required, an Aspie community would be perfect to provide that.

So... is anyone going to do anything like this? At the moment, I can't commit myself to such a project, since I've got 4 years of university coming up, but I might be able to help somewhere.

Hi AgentPalpatine, Magneto, Dhawal, and all who have been posting and reading this thread!

Yes, I am building an ECO-SYSTEM for people with ASD by creating a worker-owned cooperative. If the cooperative is successful, it would offer a full array of services to its members, including a credit union, affordable housing, education and skills training, van pool transportation, counseling, grocery store, maybe even a hydroponic greenhouse for growing organic produce, etc. See the topic I created under the Work and Finding a Job section:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt195335.html

Please contribute your thoughts and suggestions. Over the next few posts under that topic thread, I will be providing concrete information and proven examples/case studies of why I believe this worker-cooperative is a viable, permanent solution to helping people with ASD.