Leave the pro-cure groups alone
Yep, and this is exactly what Autism Speaks and some researchers wants to do. Autism is associated with a personality-type, and trying to exterminate this personality-type through abortion is nothing else than genocide.
in case you do not know, genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Since when "a personality-type" is an enthicity, religioun or nationality?
Do you think this is why I and many other adult Aspies today live a productive life while the new generation that is "treated early" is sky-rocketing in diagnosis, anxiety and ineffective treatments? .
No, I had no idea how to interact, but was able to mask all of this behind introversion. In fact, I didn't new I could get anything out of facial expressions until my late teens.
And you think early treatment is an evel, huh? you know, should you been taught earlier to somehow pay attention to facial expressions, I bet, your life could be easier. Though, I am sure you gonna give me a million reasons, why it is better not to pay attention to facial expressions until you are 20 at all. I guess you may also give me a bunch of reason not to pay any attention to what others say to you. If that is the key to a productive life, then I had better rule myself out of it.
Well, if it is not your problem, you do not have to mess in this tread at all, just by trolling.
Indeed, you are talking about Eugenics with no clue what it means!
nobody is going to control your "mating", if that is what you are so anxious about. You may approach, flirt and try to get laid with any woman you like and nobody is going to tell you a word. And nobody is going to tell any woman to abort your children. Even if diagnosed - it would be entirely the choice of the woman (and not the choice of some scientist, like in your notorious Eugenics).
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Don't be ridiculous Naturella! If a cure is developed, we will all be visited in the night by men in white vans, strapped into chairs and injected with it! They're already slowly killing us off with their attempts at screening in pregnancy, which as we know is just GENOCIDE, and pretty soon they'll start employing EUGENIC policies! Just like they stop all other people with any sort of genetic difference mating...and without our BRILLIANT minds, the Earth will be ovverun by the evil neurotypical agents of the New World Order!
I don't mind people who don't want a cure, but this is ridiculous.
Ha-ha-ha!... So, you did not specify - will they send us a huge bill for the services rendered next day, or is the government going to pay for it? It is very important... If they gona make me pay for it, then, nope! I yam going to complain!
Yep, and this is exactly what Autism Speaks and some researchers wants to do. Autism is associated with a personality-type, and trying to exterminate this personality-type through abortion is nothing else than genocide.
in case you do not know, genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Since when "a personality-type" is an enthicity, religioun or nationality?
The Autistic personality is at another level. At the species level. Therefore, it is also an ethnicity by any reasonable definition of the word.
I wouldn't be complaining about such intervention, but what you are talking about is exterminating Autism with eugenics or pills. I don't exactly think that any pills would have made me pay more attention to facial expressions. If I'd been aborted because of eugenics I surely wouldn't have paid any attention to facial expressions.

No, they are not a new species, they are the same, but a little bit different. It is actually a new enthicity, and I would even say ethnic minority. They are not American or Mexican, neither they are Russian or Englsih, far be it from them to be called Germans or Chinese. No. They are Aspies. This is what the new ethnicity name is.
It was already suggested here in this tread, that the only thing that remains to do for full acknoledgement of this new ethnicity is to make up some common hystory, cultural roots, choose a religion (possibly but not neccessary), and may be even make up some place in the globe (just our of the blue or may be, after some serious consideration) where this whole ethnic group came from. .. It may be also worth while coming up with a hymn, flag and common rituals, which in its turn, would strongly reinforce the idea of enthic identity among those who is too cosmopolitan and "forgot their roots".
Sidenote:
definition of ethnicity - just this one, which I could find in 3 minutes:
ethnicity (n) a term which represents social groups with a shared history, sense of identity, geography and cultural roots which may occur despite racial difference
Naturella, you must be insane. Autism, an ethnicity? Hah! Everyone knows it's...
A religion!
Oh yes, don't you know? We are the uber-logical Gods who were sent to Earth to guide our poor, inferior companions, the NT's. Unfortunately, they have rejected us and now attempt GENOCIDE!!!111 on our kind!
I'm all in favor of a cure. I'd take it tomorrow if it was available. Having ASD makes me absolutely miserable so I'd do just about anything to get rid of it.
I also think it would be wonderful for people with low functioning autism. Kids who can't talk and have no way to communicate with the outside world. People who have to be cared for all of their lives because they cannot function. Are you telling me they shouldn't be cured?
It is a matter of who can communicate with who and who are we to judge what is 'normal' and what is 'abnormal'. Severly Autistic kids are not braindead as much as everybody would like to believe it. They hear and understand what we're saying but they can't speak back. They are not ret*d. They don't need to be cured but we need to learn about how to communicate with them. This is where the research should be.
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I am one of those people who your mother used to warn you about.
And I find it funny how you copy and pasted the definition of eugenics
(you did not seem to know what the word meant)
But I did not have to stop to think what it meant. It meant exactly what I thought it meant. I merely gave you a reliable source for the term.
Maybe you would prefer an American source:
OTOH, maybe I have you all wrong. You now seem to be arguing in favour of a cure, in order to increase the prevalence of autistic genes? To make the human race dependent on some "intervention" to suppress expression of those genes?
It seems you didn't comprehend my post at all. Sad.
Yep, and this is exactly what Autism Speaks and some researchers wants to do. Autism is associated with a personality-type, and trying to exterminate this personality-type through abortion is nothing else than genocide.
in case you do not know, genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Since when "a personality-type" is an enthicity, religioun or nationality?
The Autistic personality is at another level. At the species level. Therefore, it is also an ethnicity by any reasonable definition of the word.
Using that logic everyone with a personality disorder is part of a separate ethnicity as well. And oops, would you look at that, most of the people with antisocial personality disorder are in jail or death row! Uh-oh, now the UN is going to have to come to America and demand that we stop our program of ethnic cleansing against psychopaths!
The first ethical rule, First, do no harm.
A cure, a pill, based on? Show some serious experiments, autism is found in the whole rodent branch.
Dense Neuron Syndrome? That is all we have to go on.
The Neo cortex is new, the species has gone through many steps of larger and larger brain, and how does that happen?
From what I have been hearing, "stop evolution now!"
It was only 40,000 years ago when thick skulled round heads were replaced with long heads, with thin skulls. Expanding dense brains? It took several thousand years, then there were mostly long heads. I am sure there were some intermediate versions, who did not catch on to the new ways.
I am sure there were some who wanted to cure long heads. With the change came art and technology, and long heads were what was left.
Please define what is so great about this imaginary NT that everyone should be just like them. Their constant warfare? Pillaging the planet for profit? Invading other cultures to enslave and extirminate them?
The root cause of a cure seems to be what Malcome X said, "The chickens will come home to roost."
Cure Autism, and ban the Internet! Make everyone sign loyality oaths?
A differance in thought and perception is seen as a threat by the weak. A world wide Internet army of nerds and geeks, functioning without needing faces, body posture, only mental content.
I do not hear this as lets cure the mentally ret*d. It is directed at the computer literate, intelligent, a threat, and because they do not care what you think, they should be forced to, to be like everyone.
Yes, the world is moving away from the old centers of power. Newspapers and TV no longer control public opinion, thousands of bloggers do. More books are now published by desk top publishers than traditional publishers, there is a loss of control.
It is all flowing to the computer and the Internet. The leading technological figures of the age are called geek, nerd, and weird.
Yes, they have that Autism disease, and should be cured, so normal people can use the Internet to watch football.
They care more about things and knowledge, placing it above being social with everyone. They must be cured, for normal people do not want to learn about things. They should not be allowed to change the world in secret from a keyboard. They are a threat to the herd! What about Herd Power?
It seems to be fading, and with the withdrawal of the thinking to the Internet, the face to face social world is much smaller, poorer, and has only each other to pick on. Hence the cause, 1% of children who have Autism are to blame. They must be cured, so normal people can feel normal?
Bubba down at the feed store says they need a DNA change, just drain out the bad DNA, and fill them up with some Real American DNA.
Joe Bob at the autobody says they are missing some chemical, and the right one would fix them.
Down at the church the preacher knows it is demons, and sitting on the child will drive the demon out.
The views of three wise me, who do not mess with them computers.
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