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11 Mar 2010, 8:21 am

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Charming. Looks like they don't want to make the effort to help.


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11 Mar 2010, 10:05 am

Weird.



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11 Mar 2010, 10:10 am

Looks like it was to stop them running across the road due to our lack of boundaries. At least no one's beening zapped there yet, that is unless they electrify the cage when the escape- aspies figure a way out.



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11 Mar 2010, 11:26 am

I think it's a good idea, to be honest.



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11 Mar 2010, 12:11 pm

memesplice wrote:
Looks like it was to stop them running across the road due to our lack of boundaries. At least no one's beening zapped there yet, that is unless they electrify the cage when the escape- aspies figure a way out.


We'll just memorize the weak spots in the fence and they will have to drop food to us via the top.



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11 Mar 2010, 1:42 pm

Punky- that really made me smile. Thank you

Seriously though, there is some need to restrain here because of the road. The issue is having to cage . I don't really see a more practical option. Less dehumanizing and unobtrusive force fields and the suchlike do not exist yet. It would be costly to have a line of NT adults shepherding mini- Aspies away from the road and probably they would get bored in this task and begin blabbering. Mini A's would spot the blabbering cycle and strike when the NT's are most self-distracted.


As long as this does not progress beyond school railings and it is not thought of as a cage
then it's not exactly a human rights issue. If they do progress beyond this containment method then we might need to do something on their behalf.

Punky - third railing to right from wall, do you notice there is a gap in the tarmac, and it's just a little loose...inviting as a wobbly tooth, the handlers are blabbering again.



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11 Mar 2010, 1:49 pm

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I've seen cattle yards in better condition.

'You cannot treat children with autism in this way.

Wow that was so ironic



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11 Mar 2010, 4:31 pm

I understand the need for a fence. What I don't understand is the need for a special fence. Elementary schools and playgrounds all around my area simply put up chain link fences around the entire playground area. There is no segregation. There is a chain link fence that protects all the children. A less dubious solution to their problem would be to simply put up a chain link fence that blocks off acess to the road, the way that thousands and thousands of American elementary schools and public playgrounds do.



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11 Mar 2010, 5:29 pm

I think that the special fence is a dumb idea.


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12 Mar 2010, 10:44 pm

memesplice wrote:
Punky- that really made me smile. Thank you

Seriously though, there is some need to restrain here because of the road. The issue is having to cage . I don't really see a more practical option. Less dehumanizing and unobtrusive force fields and the suchlike do not exist yet. It would be costly to have a line of NT adults shepherding mini- Aspies away from the road and probably they would get bored in this task and begin blabbering. Mini A's would spot the blabbering cycle and strike when the NT's are most self-distracted.


As long as this does not progress beyond school railings and it is not thought of as a cage
then it's not exactly a human rights issue. If they do progress beyond this containment method then we might need to do something on their behalf.

Punky - third railing to right from wall, do you notice there is a gap in the tarmac, and it's just a little loose...inviting as a wobbly tooth, the handlers are blabbering again.


I thought you were refrencing Jurassiac Park so I refrenced it back as well. I've always imagined troodons and velociraptors as the aspies of the dinosuar world.



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13 Mar 2010, 9:53 am

Janissy wrote:
I understand the need for a fence. What I don't understand is the need for a special fence. Elementary schools and playgrounds all around my area simply put up chain link fences around the entire playground area. There is no segregation. There is a chain link fence that protects all the children. A less dubious solution to their problem would be to simply put up a chain link fence that blocks off acess to the road, the way that thousands and thousands of American elementary schools and public playgrounds do.


A fence around the whole playground, while infinitely more logical, is also more expensive.



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13 Mar 2010, 9:58 am

*Shrugs* There's a large 8 foot fence around the special education block at my old high school (a similar fence appeared around the whole school a year or so later), but yeah, they say there's only a bench and a tree in said fenced off yard at this school. No shade other than the tree?? What about a shade sail? A water bubbler?



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14 Mar 2010, 1:33 am

I wonder if K-Rudd would like to see his autistic brother caged off like that?
I may be critical of the North Shore types but it's just like them to be special needs kids in a cage so they didn't have to deal with them.
In the long term, they need to fence off the whole school. What child doesn't run on the road after a ball bounces on to it? You don't need to be autistic to want to do that.
At my school I never felt the need to jump the small fence at the back of my school (like the other children did) which was near a busy road. I'd just count the cars that went by.


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14 Mar 2010, 3:26 am

Something else occurred to me: Rather than incarcerating children who have a history of running onto the road, they're doing it pre-emptively only to people with disabilities. I'd wager there's plenty of kids that would run onto the road, but they're put into the cage just because they might possibly do it.



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14 Mar 2010, 3:34 am

We are all testing "the cage." Most of "cage" we can not see.



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14 Mar 2010, 8:03 am

Janissy wrote:
I understand the need for a fence. What I don't understand is the need for a special fence. Elementary schools and playgrounds all around my area simply put up chain link fences around the entire playground area. There is no segregation. There is a chain link fence that protects all the children. A less dubious solution to their problem would be to simply put up a chain link fence that blocks off acess to the road, the way that thousands and thousands of American elementary schools and public playgrounds do.


Agree. With you Janissy. That's discrimination. I would give my own money to build a fence around the entire playground in that school.