Thoughts on changing the World?

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All my life ive been trying to find out whats a proper thing for me to spend my time with (read: job).

Knowing whats going on in this world my job would have to be something to help change it. (for simple point of view watch Earthlings(and / or Syriana) if you can, for me it was extremely painful)

I've climbed a long way in my chain of thought ending in few stalemates which now trouble my mind.

- I wanted to spread the word about whats really going on and how we can stop this, but ended up to the conclusion that the world is controlled far too well and someone who stands out of the masses will surely get stomped down by these powers.

- When thinking of the (Babylon) system, ive found many ways which can accelerate the downfall of it but eventually I ended up into a conclusion that the system is going to come down very soon anyway and that the time I would waste on bringing it down could be used to start planning what should be done after it's demise.

Bible is really mythical book, if one can open mindedly read it and not get tangled up in the words (blind faith), one can find meaning to many things. When we were born, we were innocent, our eyes were open, but they have been closed and its our job to reopen them again. Bible has a prophecy which Isaac Newton among many discovered, however he only counted the year approximately and the year had been recounted to be 2013. It doesnt matter what you think about the 'End of the world' or changing into the next phase in our lives.

Lets play with the thought that lots of things are really going to happen at that time. Illuminati are also well aware of it and they prepare.

At this point of writing, I ponder upon who am I writing this text for? Those who have not pondered with these thoughts cannot
give me answers, thus I should get more to the point.

Here's a quote from bilderberg-org - a site that has collected lots of information regarding this change.

Four events that signal the beginning of the end of the world

In the first century, the apostle John's day, the noise of galloping horses' hooves hitting the ground inspired fear. It was the ominous sound of an enemy's approach. So when John described four horsemen who would begin the process of unleashing judgement (tribulation) on the earth, the familiar but awful sound of approaching horses would have been ringing in his readers' ears. In Revelation 6, John describes them. The first rides a dazzling white horse; the second, a fiery red horse; the third, a black horse; and the fourth, a deathly pale horse. Each one has a mission related to the Passover lamb's (Jesus') breaking of the first four seals of judgement up in heaven.

During the Tribulation two pairs of opposing human figures are set to feature prominently in world affairs. The antichrist (eg. Revelation 11:7 and 13:3) and false prophet (Revelation 16:13; 19:19-20; 20:10), satan's political and spiritual world puppets. Opposing them will be the two witnesses of God (Revelation 11:3).
Many will cry out against God - they do not or will not understand that the anguish of the tribulation is necessary to forever banish sin and evil from the world

1. The White Horse (First seal - Revelation 6:1-2) A pyrrhic victory witnessed worldwide (Iraq?)
2. The Red Horse (Second seal - Revelation 6:3-4) A bloody World War III escalates
3. The Black Horse (Third seal - Revelation 6:5-6) Catastrophic global economic collapse causing massive food price inflation.
4. The Pale Horse (Fourth seal - Revelation 6:7-8) A quarter of the world's population is wiped out by disease & famine. Wild animals devour the bodies
5. God hears the voices of His martyrs crying out for justice to be done and decides at last to intervene. (Fifth seal - Revelation 6:9-11) *
6. An enormous earthquake. (Sixth seal - Revelation 6:12-17) The sun turns dark and moon turns red, wrath of God has come and people run to the hills
7. From the spirit realm 144,000 Children of God are marked and protected. (Seventh seal - Revelation 7:1-8:1) Loud trumpets prepare to sound - now the serious business starts. *
8. Hail, fire and blood come down to earth. (First trumpet - Revelation 8:7) One third of the world's trees torched as well as all the grass
9. One third of the sea turns to blood (Second trumpet - Revelation 8:8-9) One third of world's fish die and one third of ships sink
10. Nuclear contamination falls to earth (Third trumpet - Revelation 8:10-11) One third of rivers and springs poisoned
11. One third of sky turns dark and daytime shortened by a third. (Fourth trumpet - Revelation 8:12-13)
12. Strange flying scorpions with men's faces spend five month stinging those who are not spiritually marked out by God. (Fifth trumpet - Revelation 9:1-11)
13. Two hundred million horsemen commanded by four angels wipe out a further third of humanity (Sixth trumpet - Revelation 9:13-21)
14. In the spirit realm satan realises his time is up. (Seventh trumpet - Revelation 11:14-14:20) Hoards of deceptive demons released creating havoc for men *
15. Horrible sores break out on the skin of those who have been microchipped † (First bowl - Revelation 16:2)
16. All the sea creatures are killed (Second bowl - Revelation 16:3)
17. All rivers and springs poisoned, life becomes very precarious (Third bowl - Revelation 16:4)
18. The sun gets unbearably hot (Fourth bowl - Revelation 16:8)
19. The earth turns completely dark (Fifth bowl - Revelation 16:10)
20. Euphrates river dries up and armies gather for the final battle (Sixth bowl - Revelation 16:12)
21. Mountain ranges rise and fall. (Seventh bowl - Revelation 16:17-21) At the battle of Armageddon Jesus returns and evil is finally banished from the earth
22. The new Jerusalem descends from heaven and it has no temple within. (Revelation 21-22:5 and see 1 Chronicles 17:1-5 for temple explanation)

3. Catastrophic global economic collapse causing massive food price inflation.

- What happened to ancient rome, will now happen everywhere.

I would want to know whats there to do after this happens, how can we minimize the damage caused by this and what is there to do after the system has gone down? those minds who rule this world surely have plans for us and if we allow them to proceed, one can be sure that the prophecy of the bible is going to happen.

The text is very confusing, but thats my problem and not much I can do about it.

Revelations is the most mythological of all the books of the bible. It was a coded document written about events expected to occur withing the reign of Nero, not a prophecy of the end of the world.

In fact, the Torah is not nearly as mythical as some assume, but to fully understand some of the events it chronicles, one must revert to the source documents, which are cuneiform records from ancient Sumeria. Those records indicate that Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the product of genetic manipulation of more primitive human species in order to create a slave race, whose masters will eventually return, but not with the intent to sweep us all up in glorious rapture and transport us to Paradise.


The truth is out there. But it isn't pretty.

Sounds plausible, maybe even just today I read something about it? My time related memory is really f****d up.

Whether or not its the case, one should not trouble his mind with it but to find answers as to what can we, who are aware, do?

Relax?

Just sit back and enjoy the show.

Betting on the four horsemen is a sure thing. Mass death was common, whole peoples vanished, so making the claim that your gods did it because they were mad that their priests were not supported as they would like, and only your donations can save you, and the world, like you cared and would not sell them all out for any advantage.

Floods and earthquakes followed by famine and disease killed more people than war ever thought of.

As for all evil being gone, the thousand years of peace, no suffering for the chosen ones, the only way to do that is kill all the people.

Willard is correct, the god being worshipped is Sumarian, for everything claimed by later boy gods was what what was said long before of Marduk, Marduk puts all the little floods and earthquakes to shame, affects the whole world, and finds everyone guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

End times happen, get over it, and it is not the Second Coming, it is the fifth in human memory.

Sumarians and Mayans based their calenders on the god cycle, and they all say the same, this god does not take bribes. Unlike other religions I could mention.

The Bible is true, or it is not, and it says, "The sons of god looked upon the daughters of man and found they were fair." This means there was a biblical Mrs. God, and her boys boinked apes.

The bible is a collection of ape stories, about how they turned away from the the path of the gods, and have been felling guilty ever since.

It starts with Sumarian history, the flood, which had been in print for 3,500 years, and the original is a much better work. The Ten Commandments are a direct steal from the 125th Chapter, The Egyptian Book of the Dead, and most of the middle, Job, comes from the Baal texts from Ras Shamron.

Names have been changed to protect the guilty.

Where it does get historical, leaving Egypt, dates to 1543 BC, where Geology tells us that there was a massive tidal wave, caused by Mount Thera on the isle of Santorini blowing up. As the troops went to give aid, the illegal aliens went on a looting spree, breaking into houses, killing people, till an order went out that all looters will be killed, and the army was returning,

All illegals within the borders of Egypt will be killed. The nearest border was the Red Sea. A whole bunch of them went that way quickly, around the north end of the sea, over dry ground, and on thier left was a piller of smoke by day, and of fire at night, the eruption of Mount Thera, which was much larger than Krakatoa. There was no statute of limitations, none dared go back to Egypt.

Some of the local people would trade with them, so hiding swords under their robes, both stolen in Egypt, they did manage to slaughter most everyone in a few villages, keeping only girls who had not laid with a man, and metal.

They thought they had discovered a clever way of avoiding work, tried it on some larger towns, and getting slaughtered, for people do notice missing villages, kept trying, like people would forget, and they continued coming as peaceful scrap metal traders, all men with a sword under their robes, and everytime they got slaughtered. Besides that they lost the swords, and not being able to produce them, were reduced to clubs, the jawbone of an ass, and throwing rocks. Like the opening of 2001.

Survivors were few, lived far back in the hills, and would mob the night camps of traders traveling along the coast. Traps were set, they were slaughtered, and their camps in the hills were slaughtered. Egyptian records show that on a regular basis, something had to be done about the hill bandits that attacked travelers along the trade route.

The bandits had a god, for the other people had such picky gods, Baal supported the right of owners to be safe, and their god said, you can have everything you see, if you just kill the current owner.

Minor raids and girl child kidnapping continued, no outlying house was safe in the night, till men swept through the hills and killed everyone. Now they did not wait for murder in the night, knowing every spring and camp, the area was cleaned on a regular basis, and the crime wave stopped, for hill people were killed on sight. Those that survived stayed far back in the hills. They were barred from all trade.

Later, after a period of good behavior, they were allowed to sell their children into slavery, which most thought a better life. Buying their children kept the problems down.

Taking religion from these people is like investing with Bernie Madoff, when it sounds too good to be true, it is.

Taking Marduk from the source, we live in the end of times, the judgement comes soon, and all of your tears, prayers, are to no avail, to prepare, flip a coin, when you can call heads and tails ten times in a row, your luck might be strong enough to survive the end of the age.

All gods in human form are humans dressing up and playing god. Marduk is not human, does not care about humans, and Marduk is coming soon.

Prepare For The End! I have a lawn chair, a cooler, and my Blublockers.

Your style to write is even more complex than mine and I can get pretty complex from time to time. funny what one can think of it to mean

There's lots of stuff and I'm going to need some time to give actual comment.

just to clarify;

- I¨m not sure what to believe, thus I cannot say I believe in nothing, yet I can say I do not believe in religions as they are written by men.
- I fully believe in the next phase(see, next, not second, not third) so that wasnt my concern but thanks for giving your point of view

but few simple questions

where can I find (relevant) information about marduk?
are you saying there are so much higher forces involved that one does not need to concern his feeble mind with the troubles of the world?
if not, to what extent am I supposed to help in order to 'redeem' myself?
do you believe each one of us has a purpose on this planet and that those with the gift are meant to search the lost sheep and escort them back to the herd?
is there a location for the herd that one must seek?

Very tired at the moment and my questions might be bit unrelevant but atleast they'll give some idea.

Moog, How can I?

How does one turn his blind side on all the pain and suffering happening around us?

The words of men do have limits. The Bible is a good key to history, if you compare sources.

Starting with the oldest book that has been in print the longest, Gilgamesh, you will find the flood story, from maybe 7,000 years ago, which was an oral tradition long before then.

From 13,000 years ago, to 10,000 years ago, a lot of ice melted, the oceans rose 450 foot, and floods came from the tops of mountains, which took out everything with no warning. So the history is confirmed, but the force had the morals and ethics of an earthquake.

Marduk and the feathered serpent of the Mayan have the same description, a long period comet, 26,000 years, and that does fit with some mile wide holes in the ground made on a 26,000 year cycle.

The force involved is a hundred to a thousand times an atomic bomb, the local area gets hotter than the surface of the Sun, and the blast wave going out at 1,000 kilometers a second, kills everyhing within 1,000 kilometers. The blowback sends fire into the sky and into orbit, then a lot of it settles as glowing ash over a large area, but the rest dims the sun, and it turns cold.

The last one was Mauritania 26,000 years ago, just before a very warm period turned to an ice age. Cold air and land, warm ocean, 45 miles of snow fell.

As the Earth is 4/5 water, most would hit the ocean, and the gelologic record shows a tsunami hit the east coast, went all the way to the mountains, and would have killed everything. Florida is 48 foot at the highest, nothing survived. Flood stories are worldwide.

The Sumarian view was that gods were wind, rain, water, what we call Natural Science, and their creation story is still making the rounds, there was nothing, everything was nothing, it was dark and very cold, then there was a burst of light, and all things come from that light.

They were thinkers, a lot of good it did them, they built some mud huts and grew grain along a river, for 8,000 years ago came a drying, and the fertile lands vanished. That is when the Sahara turned from grasslands, lakes, trees, to what it is today, and that drying continued across the middle east, Iraq, the Caspian Basin, out to the Gobi, grassland that turned to desert. I have no idea why that happened, the Sahara had been grass for maybe a million years?

The Sumarian still thought climate, gave forces names, and as there is no Proto Sumerain, their language, writing, mathematics, comes from somewhere else, is fully developed, and also found in China and the Mayans. They were from north of the Black Sea, but climate change sent them to growing grain along the river, for nothing else worked.

The count of days also spread, and the story of the Dark Planet. Comets only light up when close to the Sun, this one would have a period of 26,000 years, goes out 1,000 AU, and we would not see it till it passed the gas giants. Comets are common, but we have not seen a daylight comet in hundreds of years, they are described, painted, but not in our recent time.

The Sumarians would have know this, and they said this is the big one. They and the Mayans say this ends the age in which it comes, this is the Fifth Sun of the Mayans.

So god is coming to punish the world, but it is not personal, it is amoral destruction.

Other cultures hold the same, In the Sutras of the Hindu this is the Yuga of Kali, death and destruction, which is needed for new life.

In a game played by the Sun, Planets, Comets, Asteriods, humans only exist as witnesses.

Most religious teaching call for renouncing the world, all of the people, and not being involved in their fates. If most are going to die, being in a group reduces your survival chances. Hermit in a cave in the mountains is a good job.

Most getting killed could be seen as bad, but survivors are much worse. The only way you could help them is be the meal for the day. I am not into sharing.

Most teachings say, he who holds onto their life will lose it, he who renounces all, and goes seeking in the new world of the dawning age, has the best chance of survival When food runs out, the worst place to be is with people, the best walking alone in the mountains and wilderness.

While they have been rewritten, passed down through the ages, there is some truth in it. seek gods new world, avoid crowds.

The ages are known by what ended them, fire, ice, flood, and there is no telling the hour of his coming. These reports come from those who survived. It describes Autistic loners who sought the coming age, and left all behind.

The only burden you can carry is your own. I have a pack, tent, sleeping bag, cooking set, fish hooks, snare wire, and could vanish for a year or two. The destruction might continue for hundreds of years, the after effects for thousands, most survivors are not going to make the first year.

Then there will be two groups, those who sought the new world, and some cannibals left in the cities. They will have a declining population and food supply.

Only those who follow the path of god, the new reality, will live. Forces beyond your mind have brought a total change, you must accept it as being the only path to redemption.

While this times stories start with the flood, which came at the end of the last cycle, and a truce with god, so to speak, Next Time The Fire, are true words. Our path leads through fire and ash, ice and flood, and the chosen will make it to the Sixth Sun.

We are the herd of god, and we get culled. While some will die in the destruction, most will die because they lack the sense to survive. God only likes survivors.

From the crater in South Africa from 220,000 years ago we have been through the fire of god eight times. It is a forced evolution. It does select for drive and intelligence. Technology got a big bump off of the last two.

So that is our stage, a dark lord of distruction, times of recovery, a cosmic intelligence that knows and loves us, and tortures and slaughters billions of apes to bring us into the joy of knowledge.

I know that inventors do not invent, they just notice what always was, then others can see it, and we do not create knowledge, it was always there to discover.

I know there is an infinate mind behind it all, but sometimes you have to get the apes attention first. This is one tough school, but it works. Both the god of light and the god of darkness are trying their best to kill you, the only passing grade is do not let them.

Even as a religious person, I am not sure the apocalypse is comming soon. What I do know is that the U.S. government is mired in debt. Our legislators have lost the ability to compromise with each other. Our spending is unsustainable. So is our consumption. Unless we make some big changes, it cannot last.

The End Is Near!

One, it is time for the return.

Two as Ibn Khaldun wrote in 1300, in his history of all government before his time, "All governments fail."

As part of the process, All money becomes debased. Gold is replaced with silver, then brass, then lead.

As later writers document, All paper money has become worthless. Not just the fall from a Sliver dollar in 1933 which is now worth $16, making a paper dollar worth $0.06, but worthless, gone, over, done, toilet tissue.

Government is the classic Ponzi, it is based on growth, as long as there are growing new tax payers, the funds get spent to hire the rulers family and friends, but when growth stops, they have to raise taxes, to hire men with clubs, to preserve order, and collect ever higher taxes.

The best leave,

"Money and talent move toward freedom." Ibn Khaldun 1300

Bad money drives out good, the Adam Smith translation of Khaldun. As the rulers issue brass, backed by clubs, merchants demand gold and silver, so real money flows away from bad money, which then gets replaced with lead, money only because the ruler says so, which is valued as lead in the next city.

People with goods to sell, take them to the market that pays in silver and gold, so trade moves, and skilled workers move, and smart people, till there is nothing left but the now rundown ruler and kin, his henchmen, and a few serfs. About this time someone thinks, nice location, if the rats were killed, and slaughtering the weak, bring in new energy, equality, and hard money, and the cycle starts again.

Some lasted a generation, some several, some hundreds of years, but all followed the same path, and all became dust.

Khaldun would understand today, with its courts and lawyers. That was one of the later stages of the fall.

The purpose of government, insure honest weights and measures in the market place, have a Market Master to settle all disputes now. Provide coinage that has a true and constant value, an ounce of silver,
and to protect the merchants in the market, from thieves, and in their coming and going.

Merchants will gladly pay a small tax for the services rendered, for government is a service. Providing secure storehouses for their goods, shelter for their animals, good lodging and food, will bring the trade of the world to your market.

Those who come to trade do not want your coins, they want to cash them in for bars of silver and gold. Local coinage is scrap metal in the next town.

While the growth period is strong, as it matures the value of money drops due to high government overhead, and the fall at the end is sudden, as all taxes go to pay tax collectors with clubs.

He described the end as the Security of the Homeland saw the people as enemies, and so they needed to raise taxes, debase the money, to arm a force to protect the government from terrorists within.

It is the last growth phase, for soon everyone is broke, those who have anything hide it, no one dares trade in the market, for thier goods would be seized, for they might have been using their income to run drugs or support enemies of the State, and everyone is their enemy. Big men with clubs steal everything, and the only appeal is to them, which you have a right to take to the Supreme Court, or to the leader that hired them.

Leaving becomes a crime, taking your money and talent to another place becomes a crime, so those who leave do not go back, and once the widows and orphans fund is looted, they find they have a huge pile of worthless lead coins, everyone is their enemy, no other town will allow them in the gates.

Demanding respect the men with clubs beat people in the streets, for they have the titty badge of the Leader and they are the Law, and everyone needs to learn respect. My club is the Law! They have spies and informers everywhere, no one is safe, children turn in their parents, for their teachers said to.

Everyone who is paid, Priests, Teachers, Bankers, all government workers, become spies looking for anyone who may not love being robbed and beaten, for Homeland Security. All banks are looted, for National Security, and in the end, the people turn to the desert nomads, and the government is slaughtered in the streets.

Ibn Khaldun said this is how it happens, every time, and he studied all cultures before his time.

Comparing cultures, we are at the "Then let them eat cake." phase. The Nobility have gotten much richer and the poor much poorer, to continue getting richer this unemployment and food stamps must stop.

They danced and played at the Palace of Versai, in jewel encrusted gowns, life was perfect, their rule secure, but the palace did not have a single bathroom, they used the staircases, let the servents clean it up.

A year later their heads were in baskets.

I believe the texts in the Holy Books of the major religions and the writings of the wise men like Ibn Khaldun are metaphors for what really awaits us.

You dont need religion to see what is going on. Merely a mind that is inquisitive, open and unbiased.

Technology is increasing in an exponential curve. Whether that will become a true singularity or not is not even relevant.
What is relevant is that the power over life and death on an ever greater scale will end up in the hands of individuals.
Who is to say what artificial intelligence and nano assembly will mean.

And that is where things will go wrong. Because in the present constellation of things so many people have so much reason to be dissatisfied. Islamites, Africans, Mexican, poor people, Adders and autists, Homosexuals, Blacks. Can you name a single person who has no reason at all to be unhappy?
A certain percentage of those people will be militant. And if they get their hands on unstoppable destructive power they will use it without hesitation.
Last time it was an airliner, next time it will be a 'dry' or a 'wet' nano bacteria run wild.

What is even more troubling is our continued reliance on survival of the fittest and on growth. Our technology is allowing us to exploit the very limits of our world to exhaustion and we have become our own worst enemy, a cancer that has begun to eat itself and its world.

We need to urgently relearn what Jesus Christ was really trying to tell us. We need to love our neighbour like we do ourselves in ways totally unprecedented. Inequality must be banished ruthlessly and the economy of growth has to be transformed into an economy of inward growth, of ever increasing efficiency whereby output remains more or less constant.

The rich are now thousands of times richer than the poor. If we want to survive as humanity a factor ten between the richest and the poorest on this world will already be too much.

We can choose death on the mondial scale and make the apocalypse a reality. Or we can make a new heaven and Earth ourselves.
The choice is ours.

Its not God who is going to kill us all. When it happens, it will be our own doing.

For our time the problem is math. Capital seeks a return on investment, and with all the money on earth looking to gain 10% a year, stories like saving the mineral wealth of Afganistan for Jesus make sense to some.

When people were few, 1492, the Americas huge, the answer was genocide and slavery, looting and death, by those who were devoted to Jesus.

European history is the story of those who loved Jesus killing those who loved Jesus, in constant religous wars, and burning five million at the stake, for having doubts about the love of Jesus. Then they went forth to kill the entire world for Jesus, who has more kills to his credit that Stalin, Mao, Hitler, ever thought of.

Results matter.

Most effort has been spent on churches and forts, both functions of government. In the name of protection, both enslave the people.

Jesus brought 500 years of Colonial exploitation, pillaged a planet, impoverished billions, and spread the worst of every evil.

Results matter.

To most of the world Jesus is the European excuse for looting the planet.

If we could make some sort of summarization of all this I'd be very happy.

something in terms of

- The end is coming and theres nothing you can do about that
- If you want to make change, Use the golden rule

etc.

Embrace reality.

You are a speck of dust in a huge reality, you will not change it.

We can only observe, and think, so that must be our role.