Autism Speaks Puzzlebuilder: Not Offensive, Just Stupid

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28 Oct 2010, 4:57 pm

So Autism Speaks has a new campaign. And it's not horribly offensive-- it didn't call me a monster or a burden or anything, so I liked it about a billion times more than any other campaign they've ever done. This one is just really stupid: send in a picture and make a puzzle out of it. Also sen ten dollars. What a great way to learn about autism-- almost as effective as not using Twitter for a whole day!

Puzzlebuilder: I am Autism Speaks and I am Stupid


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28 Oct 2010, 7:49 pm

Glancing at their front page, clicking on "Project of the month" at www.autismspeaks.org tells us: "... autism is an urgent and growing public health crisis ..."

So, from Autism Speaks point of view, we are still toxic.

I see that WP has a new rule: threads may not be over two years old.


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28 Oct 2010, 10:42 pm

Autism Speaks provides a needed focal point, that everyone can disagree with.

The economy has been hard on non profits, It is likely to get much worse as the charity donations are cut from the tax code.

That they are reduced to minor arts and crafts to raise funds now is nothing compared to being on the street corner with a tin cup and some pencils, or selling apples, in a few years.

As a business advisor my first question is, "What business are you in?" I find that most only have a vauge idea,

Autism Speaks seems to be in the Question Mark Business, The whole puzzle thing admits they have no idea what they are trying to do about something they do not understand.

I am impressed by the amount of money they have raised. Vacuum thinking sucks in the money.

Money well wasted, and proving that dollars are as dumb as doners. While they claim to support Science, results to date show they were scammed by science, which if they would have looked before they leaped, they might have noticed that Scientific Ethics, or lack of, only apply to what they can be sued over, or convicted in court. As funding requests are not covered, let the buyer beware.

They are following the path of NASA, We will spend a lot of money, and blame the results on a lack of funding.

I have defended their program, as I see Science as harmless tinkering. The other choice for the funds would be to produce a comic book and mail it to all American Autistics, I am now favoring the comic.

It would force a statment about what we know, what we think, and what we could try next.

Being a Non Profit is no excuse for not having a business plan.

Autism Speaks is Marketing without a product. Photo puzzles are available at the drugstore.

Alex has brought more attention to the entire field, views, scientific results, than five years of Autism Speaks marketing. Their entire public relations was based on the Mothers March of Dimes,

Scare tactics are used when there is nothing to report, and just because Marketing does not understand Science, does not mean that the public is less intelligent than marketing. People will support a cause that can show results.

Alex most recent video does show a breaktrhrough in Science and the Mind, which is a major development. It is not through drugs, genetics, psychology, it is a matter of electrical activity that can activate portions of the brain, that for some reason shut down. Once reactivated they continue, and this is Science Fiction come to life.

The intense inward focus of Autism is one human of mental energy in a restricted area of the brain. I have it, I would like to be a tourist in the rest of the brain. My strong ability to focus stays, but can be applied to new fields. I would like to be able to read people, I would still avoid them, but with deeper knowledge.

Developed, this product can outsell Scientology. World domination is within our grasp!



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29 Oct 2010, 1:30 pm

If I would have the interest to sign into Lies About Autism, I could, but here's what I would have written:

Autism Speaks The Lies

I hope you enjoy the pithiness!



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29 Oct 2010, 2:04 pm

lau wrote:
Glancing at their front page, clicking on "Project of the month" at www.autismspeaks.org tells us: "... autism is an urgent and growing public health crisis ..."

So, from Autism Speaks point of view, we are still toxic.

I see that WP has a new rule: threads may not be over two years old.


Yes, it seems that we're no longer allowed to make any more criticisms of Autism Speaks. How wonderful.

I would actually approve of them supporting Alex's videos if they really did try to change their message about autism but instead they still have junk like that on their website.



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29 Oct 2010, 2:10 pm

Jono wrote:
lau wrote:
Glancing at their front page, clicking on "Project of the month" at www.autismspeaks.org tells us: "... autism is an urgent and growing public health crisis ..."

So, from Autism Speaks point of view, we are still toxic.

I see that WP has a new rule: threads may not be over two years old.


Yes, it seems that we're no longer allowed to make any more criticisms of Autism Speaks. How wonderful.

I would actually approve of them supporting Alex's videos if they really did try to change their message about autism but instead they still have junk like that on their website.


That "More Autism Speaks jolliness" post was blocked from human posting, although I don't see anything wrong with it...are we not allowed to have thoughts of our own?



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29 Oct 2010, 2:30 pm

You are "not allowed" to criticize Autism Pretends To Speak But In Fact Is Silenced By a Group of Self-Righteous NTs?

So what exactly has everyone been doing in this thread? :)

The rule about "no threads over two years old" is, I believe, intended to cut down on thread necromancy (which seems to really really bother some of the members here).


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29 Oct 2010, 3:21 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
The rule about "no threads over two years old" is, I believe, intended to cut down on thread necromancy (which seems to really really bother some of the members here).


There was never a specific rule against thread necromancy before. We were always allowed to post in old threads if you could still make a meaningful contribution or if the topic was still relevant.



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29 Oct 2010, 3:31 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
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The rule about "no threads over two years old" is, I believe, intended to cut down on thread necromancy (which seems to really really bother some of the members here).

I'm still waiting for Alex to put all the new rules into the WrongPlanet Rules.

There are, of course, two forms of "thread necromancy".

The first, which one does not really want, is typically where an old thread is dragged back out to re-answer a question from someone who no longer even visits WP.

The second is where some useful information is present in the thread and NOT reanimating the existing thread would clearly contravene the spamming rule:
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* Do not create multiple similarly themed topics; please combine them into one topic.


Of course, should one wish to suppress visibility of information inside an old thread, it would seem to be better done by deleting it. However, locking a thread is MUCH more effective, as the rules do clearly prohibit:
WrongPlanet Rules wrote:
discussion of locked topics
I.e. by locking a thread, discussion of it becomes a bannable offence. Deleting the thread would allow it to be discussed.


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29 Oct 2010, 4:12 pm

lau wrote:

There are, of course, two forms of "thread necromancy".

The first, which one does not really want, is typically where an old thread is dragged back out to re-answer a question from someone who no longer even visits WP.

The second is where some useful information is present in the thread and NOT reanimating the existing thread would clearly contravene the spamming rule:
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* Do not create multiple similarly themed topics; please combine them into one topic.




There is third type, and that is bringing back threads that were, in their time, posted as current events. The thread you are upset about started with a "this just happened!" declaration. Many people open a thread and don't look at the originated date, making the news item really confusing. This is what I posted on page 3 of that thread, shortly after it got resurrected and before a few more pages got piled on:

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Aren't there better ways to discuss the concerns than confusing people by raising up a 2 1/2 year old thead?

Decisions they make today may not be the same of those they made yesterday. As the biggest beast out there, I would hope that Autism Speaks is evolving towards positions this community will be happier with. I don't know that they are, but I don't think raising old threads is going to help.


If it had been my call at the time (which it wasn't, I think I had already resigned), I would have locked it then and there, for the reason stated in the quote. Just saying, more as a matter of discussion than anything specific to that thread, because obviously it had evolved since my post on page 3, and my opinion here does not address how any of that plays in.

As for the rest ... I think I'll keep my comments to myself. I know, originally I posted more, but I'm now editing. They weren't well thought out, and may not have represented what I really think, among other things.


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30 Oct 2010, 1:02 pm

They don't speak for me.


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30 Oct 2010, 1:28 pm

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... reduced to minor arts and crafts to raise funds now is nothing compared to being on the street corner with a tin cup and some pencils, or selling apples, in a few years ...

Alex has brought more attention to the entire field ...

Alex most recent video does show a breakthrough in Science and the Mind ...

So whether by way of "minor arts and crafts" or dipping from tin cups, let the show continue!


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