"Desperate mum" Oh please make me vomit!
How about "Psychotic mother murders 12 year old child by pouring bleach down his throat"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22720162/
If I had a newspaper, you could write headlines for it any time you wanted.
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The story has got nothing to do with whether the mother loved or hated her child. She was unwell mentally and therefore was not in her right mind when she performed this act which to most people seems horrific. Having a severely autistic child can train a person. Knowing that the child was going to be taken away from her might have just pushed her over the edge. Obviously I'm not trying to make excuses for her actions, however it seems she was not being given the correct support for either herself or her child.
Anyone living in the UK will understand how difficult it is for a mother of an autistic child to get any help. It is not just people with high functioning or aspergers that struggle to get the services in this country. Even severely autistic people are not given the services they require in many cases. I am not the mother of an autistic child and I wouldn't want to be. One of my biggest fears is if I ever get married and my partner wishes to have children. My mum could barely cope with me and I am a high functioning autistic person. My mum was also very ill although she had depression not psychosis. I suppose that is why I feel a bit more sympathy towards mentally ill people than most. Also because when I was in a psychiatric ward I met some wonderful people who are never going to live a happy or normal life because of their mental illness. It is easy to jump to conclusions when he read a story like this. Therefore it is important to stop and think about it before getting angry. Instead we should try channel our anger into getting better support for parents of autistic children and the autistic children themselves.
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Anyone living in the UK will understand how difficult it is for a mother of an autistic child to get any help. It is not just people with high functioning or aspergers that struggle to get the services in this country. Even severely autistic people are not given the services they require in many cases. I am not the mother of an autistic child and I wouldn't want to be. One of my biggest fears is if I ever get married and my partner wishes to have children. My mum could barely cope with me and I am a high functioning autistic person. My mum was also very ill although she had depression not psychosis. I suppose that is why I feel a bit more sympathy towards mentally ill people than most. Also because when I was in a psychiatric ward I met some wonderful people who are never going to live a happy or normal life because of their mental illness. It is easy to jump to conclusions when he read a story like this. Therefore it is important to stop and think about it before getting angry. Instead we should try channel our anger into getting better support for parents of autistic children and the autistic children themselves.
Yeah...that's an astute assessment. She might have some imbalances, as the person in this famous historical case did who killed both her mother and her father with an axe. They said she had impulse control problems, dissociation, and possible sexual abuse, but I don't know.
I'll try to not jump to conclusions...
That is truly sick. I have two children both are on the spectrum and I am on the spectrum too. I've thought for a long time as soon as the kiddos get a diagnosis Mom needs to take herself off to a shrink(psychiatrist) and the doctor. Oh I know it's a generalization and perhaps too strong a one but better to find out about imbalances and do something about them then to do something crazy or sick. In all the support groups I've been in I've yet to meet a mother of an Autistic child that didn't have something either slightly or very wrong with them. Manic depression/Bipolar, narcolepsy, immune deficiency, ADHD, depression, social anxiety, AS, autoimmune issues, NVLD, just plain nuts or whatever and just when I think I've met another mother of an Autistic child that has nothing wrong with her I wait just a bit and voila something comes up.
Most of the mother's on the support forum I'm on are on the same types of medications as their children and rightly so. A lot of the mom's that have been there a while think that Mom should be given anti-depressant prescription the day their children get diagnosed. I think it would save the world a lot of grief to haul Mom in for a full psychiatric/psychological evaluation and a full medical evaluation after their kid gets diagnosed and have it repeated once a year. A few of them have been in a mental hospital and/or need a mental hospital but would never mention that to their children. Being a mom to children on the spectrum is a hard job and it's easy to get tired and burnt out. Mother's should be encouraged to talk about how tired and frustrated they are.
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Anyone living in the UK will understand how difficult it is for a mother of an autistic child to get any help. It is not just people with high functioning or aspergers that struggle to get the services in this country. Even severely autistic people are not given the services they require in many cases. I am not the mother of an autistic child and I wouldn't want to be. One of my biggest fears is if I ever get married and my partner wishes to have children. My mum could barely cope with me and I am a high functioning autistic person. My mum was also very ill although she had depression not psychosis. I suppose that is why I feel a bit more sympathy towards mentally ill people than most. Also because when I was in a psychiatric ward I met some wonderful people who are never going to live a happy or normal life because of their mental illness. It is easy to jump to conclusions when he read a story like this. Therefore it is important to stop and think about it before getting angry. Instead we should try channel our anger into getting better support for parents of autistic children and the autistic children themselves.
As a UK citizen, I sort of understand what you mean about the services (and I say "sort of" because I was one of those who actually managed to get early intervention and received support throughout most of my life). I have many friends who have struggled to get support and I remember how stressed out and frightened they and their families were. I do agree that she did what be did out if desperation and because she felt totally hopeless (on top of being severely mentally ill). However, I have read so many stories on the news about parents killing their disabled children and my personal problem with these stories is the way in which the media tries to make these people into martyrs. There is a lot of sympathy that is directed towards the mothers but very little is said about the victim. I suppose this is just a weird habit humans get into; they become so fascinated with the murderer that they forget about the people they killed. I know I've done that before.
I hate this because a lot because it adds to the stupid notion in our society that disabled people are somehow better off dead. There is this bizarre and totally abhorrent idea that there is a silver living in this incident which is the fact that "he will never have to suffer anymore" (I'm not accusing you of having that opinion, just to let you know). I find that to be a horrible opinion to have because I'm sure that child's last moments were terrifying. I'm sure after drinking the bleach, he must have been in agony and wasn't sure what was happening or why his mother wasn't doing anything to alleviate the symptoms.
Also, as much as I feel some sympathy towards her (given her mental state) she didn't want her child to be taken away from her. We don't know much more than that. I mean, were they just going to live in a group home where the mother could visit or was she not allowed to see her child, etc? Was she taking care of her child well enough? There must have been a good reason for her child being taken away from her. When I read that article, a part of me felt like she was very selfish because she felt that she had to taker her son's life with her. On the other hand, I suppose she felt like she was protecting him from being abused. In any case, this is still an abhorrent act.
I agree with you that we seriously need to provide services for these people if it's not being provided and I also agree that we should not be calling people "monsters", but at the same time, I don't want to turn this woman into a martyr.
Don't believe me that these people are treated like martyrs in the autism community?
http://liveslosttoautism.blogspot.com/
By the way, don't even think about trying to leave a comment on this website because the owner of the site doesn't believe in free speech.
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