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"The barometer of where one is on human rights questions is no longer the black community, it's the gay community, because it is the community which is most easily mistreated." -Bayard Rustin, 1986

"The Aspie community is even more easily mistreated." - Erik Anderson, The King of Funny Faces 2010

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Pitting one group of people against the other in this context I don't think is wise. Firstly the black community historic arose from sub-human rights on the bases of skin color alone with no deficit in comparison to those whom perceived themselves superior. Albeit it might be argued that a minority of similar skin colors had also assisted in this in the form of slave trading in Africa. However despite this it was skin color alone which disenfranchised this group external from this argument in the origins of a country attempting to figure out what freedom really was.

Each group is unique to it's own. If there should be a competition and subsequent arguments of how the once discriminated against discriminate against other groups I can guarantee this will be fruitless. Gay is a sexuality not necessary manifesting a noticeable personality whereas skin color is unavoidable. These are two extremely different concerns. Gay rights are progressing and it seems that "difference" alone is what triggers in others the discrimination thus mistreatment. This is manifest of social, economic and general preservation insecurities of the macro majority of deciding influence.

Institutional stereotypes, mistreatment and discrimination have played a role in all these groups social and economic evolutions. Hence there are similarities. However the connotation of autism by means of "aspie" and so on is a different thing from these other two groups and each different from one another respectably. According to the FBI hate crimes against the disabled are up. My theory was that during the regression of the recession such crimes would increase and they have including threats of violence toward my organization and similar organizations recorded openly on the internet. This has to do with economic insecurity of members of the majority albeit a minority of which.

Here is what my Congressman wrote to me:

http://www.compassionateintegrations.or ... mpson.html

My conclusion is although the congressman is supporting wholly the perspective of a common discrimination against the "disability" community I would add individuals with disabilities are afforded minimal human rights. By means of the Social Security Administration unlike in past times and cultures where the disabled were thrown off cliffs for being perceived unacceptable we are afforded life but with some human rights removed because of this disposition because others afford it.

In order for the autism, developmental disability and disability community when substantial inability to function in the so called normal is present people have to adapt as a group. This does not happen by asking please but by means of the analysis, experimentation with and participation in the world around the substantially disabled minority group. Several books I could write about this issue but the science and it's methodologies still need testing.

It's important to remember most people in the general public are actually really nice.

Nathan Young

So I'm unwise because "individuals with disabilities are afforded minimal human rights"? Are you sure about that? Have you ever been locked up and forced to take medication just because you are who you are and you do what you do? I sure have.

Why are we only being afforded "minimal" human rights, to use your words? Why are we not afforded all of our human rights? Why is your first impulse to criticize what I wrote? to dismiss it completely?

You got one thing right, my friend: "this does not happen by asking please." I don't think it happens by "analysis, experimentation with and participation in the world" either. Not solely by that. What we need is to struggle. What we need is to stand up to people who call us "diseased" and "incompetent" for no other reason than we are who we are.

How am I pitting one group of people against another, Nathan? The African American and Gay Rights movements will always have new struggles. They will never give up. Why do you want to give up after only one comment on an internet message board?

It would be difficult to understand why a theory would be solely applied to you. It was based on quotations of your and my overall observation of social media and general relevant online social discourses as well. In the realm of institutional removals of freedom I have also confronted this issue. You would need to be more specific about the circumstances in your regard for me to comment but this would entail the public record of your private details. The Lanterman Act of California for instance was written primary for the removal of individuals with developmental disabilities from institutions. Still yet these rights while still within institutions is not part of any major public discourse for either reasons of special interest or a societal acceptance of stereotypes. It cannot be concluded by me if special interest, whereas individuals profiting from your removals of freedoms at times have biased opinions as a result.



Perhaps you are used to negativities that do not consider your opinions. Your statements were quotations and very short. Obviously I was creating conversations based on the starting introduction to further it. The intent is to create an approach in all relevant human liberties pursuits to create mainstream public discourses. For this reason obviously I am not attempting to discount your specific concerns which were not initially introduced in this conversation until now.




Analysis is quite the informal idea as well. To think of an issue and to attempt to further it by participating in the world to do so is a good struggle to achieve it. Obviously for instance like gay people once said of themselves and might still do is coming out of the closet thus creating awareness to achieve progressions they sought. The disease terminology by my understand is typical pathological reasoning. In Freuds the psychopathology of everyday life book some may discover like in business everything might be perceived as a disease. Although it quite differers from the unfair mentality of one born so called atypical whereas I say I am and others with autism are part of typical. The people that call "us" diseased I don't think mean it hatefully but sharing your feelings about it they might change there minds. As far as incompetent I've been called this by so called self-advocates but it's the internet and some people might just be bullies claiming to have autism and they might just be pathological bullies. I may be unique in that I enjoy thinking of everything as akin to a disease to figure out in logical ways but to me in how I analyse (think) to understand it does not mean it's atypical but I also include typical.



Is just a vague attempt to say something else and I am supposed to read between the lines? Why would I give up? I have no lack of motivation with regard. The quotations could be potentially perceived as leading toward the idea that at that time or in this time in history one group was more disadvantaged then the other and one was more important now.This can create resentment and so I typed of the general arguments surrounding it. I reply based on what can be possible but not always based on what is certain.

generally speaking, i think you've addressed all my concerns, ci

i just read it once, though. I will probably come back to it later and maybe we'll discuss it now. Right now I have to struggle with taking the garbage out.

Peace.

Please join the New Jersey chapter of the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network:
http://www.autisticadvocacy.org/modules ... egoryid=15

I'm all for autism advocacy groups to form. However ones that do not allow democratic voting in their macro-expressions by qualifying participants professionally diagnosed with autism I do not endorse. It's the local organizations influencing the local public that have the best impact to create results. The macro media changes like the wind changes directions. True facilitators of disability civil rights are facilitators designed to entice the social empowerment of every individuals opinions and rights. Therefore any organization not comprise of the model of the respect and dignified rights protections of every member, even in spite of a majorities say, is a kind of special interest that might be percieved as evading human rights. Here where I live in Humboldt County people first language advocacy is prominent and each individual with HFA or otherwise is assigned a protection and advocacy attorney to assure individual rights. I have one assigned to me.

Thank you, Ken G. I have been to Legal Services of NJ, Disability Rights NJ, the Community Health Law Project and the ACLU. Not one of them will help me, either because I have no money or because I live in a rural part of this state, outside of jurisdiction. I have my doubts about any organization that claims to offer help, but I just explained my case in detail to the contact for NJ I got from the link you provided. Thank you very much.

thanks for your perspective ci,

what is "people first language advocacy" and what is "HFA"?

Summed up People First Language is:

Saying someone has autism as opposed to saying someone is autistic. It in my opinion disvalues my individuality and attaches a stereotype directly even though others desire to redefine autism more often then not because it has become a percieved identity thus concept based personally. Though makes hyper-relevant some other positive issues. Traditionally person first language was about the political correctness of let's say calling someone in a wheelchair or whom is wheelchair bound a cripple. It made people believe of themselves they were entirely defective and less then human then typical functioning people. This can especially happen because a disability being primary a negativity in nature in-spite of indirectly perceived resulting positive manifestations in ones attributes that one is more focused on the labeled attributes. In part aside from autism abortion politics it is driving social psychological force behind the need of self-advocates to re-define autism I think.

As far as HFA I don't like labels so don't study them. Everyone is an individual with individual needs and wants. I am thus kind of like an organic mind and have little concern for the term other then my and others similar needs to adapt and evolve in society. I do not need to be a specialist but am assigned specialist to consult me about disability issues and my advocacy organization paid for by government money. My organization is in transition and I have already acquired a director of day program services with over fifteen years of experience in the support worker field and being a director of an employment day program before.

Nathan Young

"people first language" is saying "people with autism" instead of "autistics".
Read Jim Sinclair's "Why I dislike "person first" language":
http://web.archive.org/web/200707150552 ... _first.htm

HFA is High Functioning Autism

I have already devised an outline of a response to his letter and will have my own.