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10 Sep 2011, 11:36 am

I saw a facebook page for "Autism Votes," which sounds like a great idea, but then I noticed it was part of "Autism Speaks." Anyone know anything about this? Is it legit or just an effort on the part of Autism Speaks to appear less offensive then they do?


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10 Sep 2011, 11:50 am

Madam, anything to do with autism speaks right now is always important to point out.



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10 Sep 2011, 12:10 pm

it looks like im back,i was banned from forums for 4 hours,sorry to who i have offended.i have an account on autism speaks.you can have fun on A.S without agreeing with the administration and there politics


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10 Sep 2011, 12:38 pm

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it looks like im back,i was banned from forums for 4 hours,sorry to who i have offended.i have an account on autism speaks.you can have fun on A.S without agreeing with the administration and there politics

That's just plain weird. It may have been an error or mistake.



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10 Sep 2011, 12:45 pm

I think it's about insurance reforms and I'm quite interest to see how many pride advocates go against it and show their true colors where applicable as special interest.


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10 Sep 2011, 12:56 pm

ci wrote:
I think it's about insurance reforms and I'm quite interest to see how many pride advocates go against it and show their true colors where applicable as special interest.

Please stop using 'pride' in condemnations and accusations.

It isn't appropriate and it isn't helpful.


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10 Sep 2011, 12:59 pm

Pride politics are relevant. If they oppose Autism Speaks so much it is important to know if pride factions opposes insurance reform. If they do then pride politics is an agenda. Being proud of yourself differs but pride politics is a hardened set of agenda's in the autism community. Understanding their motivations is important. Consider it merely a word similarity to other forms of pride that I didn't create or progress but the word is hyper-relevant..


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10 Sep 2011, 1:05 pm

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Pride politics are relevant.

It isn't called 'pride politics'. That's a word you have kept using ever since you invented the pejorative 'pride-mite'. It's an attempt to weld together any person who doesn't like cure in to one non-existent class.



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10 Sep 2011, 1:15 pm

anti-cure is known as the autism pride movement. Look it up.


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10 Sep 2011, 1:17 pm

ci wrote:
Pride politics are relevant. If they oppose Autism Speaks so much it is important to know if pride factions opposes insurance reform. If they do then pride politics is an agenda. Being proud of yourself differs but pride politics is a hardened set of agenda's in the autism community. Understanding their motivations is important. Consider it merely a word similarity to other forms of pride that I didn't create or progress but the word is hyper-relevant..

You have been asked repeatedly to stop your hateful, exclusionary, and discriminatory behavior.

You persist in spite of our requests.

Please find something constructive to post about, cut out all of the abusive language, and quit attacking and putting down everyone who doesn't meet your personal selection criteria.


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10 Sep 2011, 1:29 pm

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anti-cure is known as the autism pride movement. Look it up.
there is no absolute definition of pride or cure.this forum has such narow definition of such things.where are you getting this.there is no evidence to sugest that personal pride is a hinderence to services if anything it would help


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10 Sep 2011, 1:31 pm

Being proud of yourself has nothing to do with the pride movements politics. I am not the one who made pride political. That's why I've said in the past other peoples self-esteems have been used for political reasons. Do the research based on the history. If you refuse to educate yourself then that is your choice.


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10 Sep 2011, 1:35 pm

AlanTuring wrote:
ci wrote:
Pride politics are relevant. If they oppose Autism Speaks so much it is important to know if pride factions opposes insurance reform. If they do then pride politics is an agenda. Being proud of yourself differs but pride politics is a hardened set of agenda's in the autism community. Understanding their motivations is important. Consider it merely a word similarity to other forms of pride that I didn't create or progress but the word is hyper-relevant..

You have been asked repeatedly to stop your hateful, exclusionary, and discriminatory behavior.

You persist in spite of our requests.

Please find something constructive to post about, cut out all of the abusive language, and quit attacking and putting down everyone who doesn't meet your personal selection criteria.


I will not be manipulated by yet another pride advocate that wishes to ignore the obvious political relevancy sociologically. I am not speaking about any sort of relevancy to gay pride but that of autism pride political groups. Do the research and quite excluding valid arguments against a pride political affront who has for years confronted cure advancement rights. It has nothing to do with being proud of yourself but known and documented pride affronts in the form of groups. Ask them to stop using the idea of pride then and stop over using discrimination claims especially against people with confirmed autism diagnoses. We won't be manipulated by the anti-cure pride movement. You cannot get your way simply because you claim someone is discrimination when it is not.

I do not attack everyone your making it up.


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10 Sep 2011, 1:36 pm

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Being proud of yourself has nothing to do with the pride movements politics. I am not the one who made pride political. That's why I've said in the past other peoples self-esteems have been used for political reasons. Do the research based on the history. If you refuse to educate yourself then that is your choice.
surely one persons feelings is not political but it is the root of the politics of pride.the only organized pride party is the asan,other than them your talking about individuals


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10 Sep 2011, 1:38 pm

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ci wrote:
Being proud of yourself has nothing to do with the pride movements politics. I am not the one who made pride political. That's why I've said in the past other peoples self-esteems have been used for political reasons. Do the research based on the history. If you refuse to educate yourself then that is your choice.
surely one persons feelings is not political but it is the root of the politics of pride.the only organized pride party is the asan,other than them your talking about individuals


There are many pride groups with political affronts. Being proud of overcoming starkly differs. He related pride to gay pride and finds offense because of that. Instead they are completely different in how I speak about it and yet continues to see it as the same because he is gay. I have no problem with gay equality but using it against people with autism speaking against pride politics of autism groups and individuals who join in the affront is manipulation against common sense context and people who are diagnosed they would have silenced for disagreeing with the affronts.


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10 Sep 2011, 1:44 pm

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ci wrote:
Being proud of yourself has nothing to do with the pride movements politics. I am not the one who made pride political. That's why I've said in the past other peoples self-esteems have been used for political reasons. Do the research based on the history. If you refuse to educate yourself then that is your choice.
surely one persons feelings is not political but it is the root of the politics of pride.the only organized pride party is the asan,other than them your talking about individuals


There are many pride groups with political affronts. Being proud of overcoming starkly differs. He related pride to gay pride and finds offense because of that. Instead they are completely different in how I speak about it and yet continues to see it as the same because he is gay. I have no problem with gay equality but using it against people with autism speaking against pride politics of autism groups and individuals who join in the affront is manipulation against common sense context and people who are diagnosed they would have silenced for disagreeing with the affronts.
what other organizations exist besides the asan that you would consider pride based


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