I guess this is a good place to say goodbye (no, it's ok vermontsavant, no need to check under your armpits - you washed - it's not about you - honest

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My only real purpose here has always been to deflect the use of the forum to promote "Autism Speaks" and similar, I usually would not hang around this long, and I guess I only did for the most common, covert, reason of all - because there is something very different in my real life I should be doing instead. (Who knew?

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As long as I stick around two negative things will happen:
1. I will not get on with the thing I am supposed to be doing instead, which really is exceptionally important (as saving the planet goes).
2. Whatever I post Gedrene will not be able to sleep properly until he has found a way to force me into the very kind of circular argument that this forum needs rid of....and as you can appreciate, a growing boy needs his sleep.
Seriously, it's an insurmountable personality clash. I am like a red rag to a bull to Gedrene - I don't think he could leave it alone if his life depended on it, and he needs this forum and I don't, so it's for me to go particularly as I have so much else to do anyway.
So take care of yourselves, and just try to learn how stimulating it is to exchange ideas rather than score points off each other for the heck of it...just try it for a few days...you can always go back if you really hate it.
Sayonara...
im not sure why you want to leave,because dicent is esential for a free exchange of ideas.i hope you change you mind,i know your having issues with one person but there is 50,000 members and i lot of stuff to do.anyhow if your realy saying goodbye than good luck