Mentally ill / disturbed person tortured to death by police

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14 Jan 2012, 3:41 pm

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62-year-old Nick Christie was restrained, gagged and pepper sprayed up to 10 times in the Lee County Jail in Florida - his death is raising questions about torture and abuse




This is a disgrace!


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14 Jan 2012, 4:04 pm

it is, unfortunately, routine for folks in jail to not get their meds. i agree. it's horrible.



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14 Jan 2012, 4:22 pm

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it is, unfortunately, routine for folks in jail to not get their meds. i agree. it's horrible.


When you go to jail they ask you if you take medicine for something, and if so they find out what and how much. If it's something you need right away and they don't have a dr there they take you to the emergency room for it or for a prescription for it. If not, they take you to a clinic the next day.


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14 Jan 2012, 4:25 pm

Wow that scares the crap out of me, having faced some minor police abuse myself.....but yes people in positions of power sometimes let it go to their head or are just sick individuals to begin with. So this kind of crap does take place.


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14 Jan 2012, 4:27 pm

Since the police can not be changed, then maybe the best interim solution is for "Mentally Ill" people to either mind their behavior or stay away from police.



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14 Jan 2012, 4:37 pm

Fnord wrote:
Since the police can not be changed, then maybe the best interim solution is for "Mentally Ill" people to either mind their behavior or stay away from police.


Yes because all mentally ill people can just supress their symptoms in every situation, simple...or maybe those enforcing the laws should quit f*cking abusing people that would be a good idea as well.


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14 Jan 2012, 4:51 pm

Since the police will likely not stop abusing people, and "Mentally Ill" people are unlikely to change their behavior, then that seems to leave only staying away from police.



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14 Jan 2012, 4:53 pm

Fnord wrote:
Since the police will likely not stop abusing people, and "Mentally Ill" people are unlikely to change their behavior, then that seems to leave only staying away from police.


Yeah just lay down and take it right? weak attempt at justification I say. Besides it is not always possible to stay away from the police.


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14 Jan 2012, 5:06 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Since the police will likely not stop abusing people, and "Mentally Ill" people are unlikely to change their behavior, then that seems to leave only staying away from police.
Yeah just lay down and take it right? weak attempt at justification I say. Besides it is not always possible to stay away from the police.

How do you make the flying leap from "Stay away from police" to "Lay down and take their abuse"?

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It's easy to stay away from them - I do it nearly all of the time. I haven't seen a cop since yesterday, and he was arresting someone on suspicion of child abuse. Otherwise, I usually don't encounter them at all.



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14 Jan 2012, 6:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Since the police will likely not stop abusing people, and "Mentally Ill" people are unlikely to change their behavior, then that seems to leave only staying away from police.
Yeah just lay down and take it right? weak attempt at justification I say. Besides it is not always possible to stay away from the police.

How do you make the flying leap from "Stay away from police" to "Lay down and take their abuse"?

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It's easy to stay away from them - I do it nearly all of the time. I haven't seen a cop since yesterday, and he was arresting someone on suspicion of child abuse. Otherwise, I usually don't encounter them at all.


Hi Fnord,

An observed practice to "stay away from police" is "reasonable cause" for police officers to inquire on the origin justifying the suspiciousness in the observed practice of unreasonable avoidance by a then "person of interest" to a police officer.

The police prejudice that every listing in the DSM-IV represents a foundation for assuming a suspect being one of the "Mentally Ill", while providing an exonerating simultaneous excuse for the police to deny their expertise at being "health" experts (in California, "Precipitous Use Of 5150"), covers a large percentage of the population.

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P.S.: "Staying Away from a Group" implies not having knowledge of the origin of the basis for one of the police group member's particular "suspicions" of "arresting someone on suspicion" of anything otherwise, either that, or, your own recommended police avoidance practice frequently fails in actualization, or assumptions upon assumptions upon......, with prejudice.



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14 Jan 2012, 6:51 pm

I'm beginning to trust the cops less and less because of stories like these.


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14 Jan 2012, 6:56 pm

Fnord wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Since the police will likely not stop abusing people, and "Mentally Ill" people are unlikely to change their behavior, then that seems to leave only staying away from police.
Yeah just lay down and take it right? weak attempt at justification I say. Besides it is not always possible to stay away from the police.

How do you make the flying leap from "Stay away from police" to "Lay down and take their abuse"?

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It's easy to stay away from them - I do it nearly all of the time. I haven't seen a cop since yesterday, and he was arresting someone on suspicion of child abuse. Otherwise, I usually don't encounter them at all.


Its not always possible to stay away from them, and they usually make me very anxious because I know I tend to freak out in situations like that and it probably effects how I act meaning in then I get even more worried I am going to un-intentionally piss them off or something and I really don't feel like getting killed over it. I've already had bad experiances.

So yeah things like this disturb me and are wrong, came off like you were trying to justify it by putting all responsiblity on the person who suffers the abuse.


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14 Jan 2012, 6:58 pm

My father is in mental decline himself, but fortunately it's not too bad yet. It's mostly cognitive and memory problems, not "mental illness," but will the difference matter to people like the cops and others who dealt with Mr. Christie? I'd bet that "disoriented & scared" and "bad attitude" often means the same thing to such people.

This kind of stuff scares the crap out of me (and p*sses me off). Did society used to be better or did this kind of sadistic crap just get ignored in the past? Is it movies and TV making sadism "cool"? WTF is wrong with people.



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14 Jan 2012, 9:08 pm

What the f**k! They had absolutely no reason to do such a thing, pepper spraying a restrained man is just sadistic. And they got away away with it? :evil:


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14 Jan 2012, 9:41 pm

a few years ago in hinsdale,NH a mentaly ill man was going door to door telling people he was running for president.the police were called and they confronted him on the main rd and he panced and ran right into the ashoelot river.it was winter and the waters were freezing and he drowned imediatley.the police didnt know he was mentaly ill at the time


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28 Jan 2012, 7:11 pm

I bet not a lot of you know about what goes on with the Occupy protestors every day, with the police.