Ways we can help victims of the "autism is a problem" camp

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11 Sep 2015, 7:32 pm

And potential victims.

I propose an autistic pro-life foundation that, free of charge (and I would like to start such a foundation)...
1) hooks up unwanted autistic children and autistic adults who cannot live alone with families or group homes that will love them for who they are;
2) provides a center for those people to stay at either for as long as they wish or while homes are being found for them or they move out on their own;
3) provides a respite space at the autistic center for suicidal autistics that includes support groups, housing, food, counseling, medication if it is needed, and therapeutic workshops designed to promote autism as a good thing;

4) provides books and workshops to EVERYONE... books and workshops that promote autism as a good thing;

5) helps autistics find jobs that suit them using job-choosing counselors, job-finding computer programs and help finding appropriate schools and registering for school;

6) provides an on-site psychologist to correctly diagnose people as autistic, provide a full assessment and listen to the concerns of and talk to the autistics and anyone else interested about why autism is a good thing;

7) provides lawyers to advocate for autistics' right to life-- for people who try to kill autistics because they are autistic (including and especially people who murder their autistic family members) to remain jailed and get therapy from pro-life, pro-autism counselors;

8) provides lawyers to advocate for people who are otherwise discriminated against because they are autistic;

9) provides a social club/support group for autistics;

10) provides housing and resources for autistics to look for housing.



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15 Sep 2015, 1:39 am

Need this be restricted to autistic people?

1-2 I like the idea, but the problem with these type of programs is they may encourage people to abandon their kids who otherwise won't, resulting in the system getting overwhelmed.
3-4 Promoting autism as a good thing is overly simplistic, therapy should be tailored to the need of the person.
5 is essential. Beyond that seems to be stretch goals.


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16 Sep 2015, 7:13 am

About 1-2: First come, first served.
About 3-4: Treating comorbids is fine, just not treating the autism as if its traits are a disease, when NTs's bad traits aren't considered a disease, and a disease worthy of eugenics too.



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17 Sep 2015, 8:16 am

You're talking about building an alternative society in a safe zone, built of diasporadic people (people made to leave their homelands because of their social group).

This alternative society, although small, would eventually be competition for the main society. It would have different formal and informal rules. Because it's small and self-contained, it would probably do very well. That success would be way more threatening than any possible failures. Regular, main society would attack it sooner or later.

It would also make the autistic people remaining in the main society more discriminated against. They would stick out like sore thumbs because no one else would be around who was like them. It would become mandatory for autistic people to go into the new, smaller society.

Historically, things like this have been tried and failed with black people and jewish people. Whenever they start doing well, their society is sabotaged. Rosewood in the US post slavery is a good example, and the jewish bankers pre-1900 in Europe.

If autistic people lived in main society, but were in small family type groups, this would work better, but it would strengthen the idea that autistic people are not like others. Autistic people would become a class similar to black people in the US. A minority class identified by small details in appearance and behavior. Easier for neurotypicals to classify people as autistic, and harder for autistic people to blend in if they want.

Interesting idea though.



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17 Sep 2015, 8:52 am

SocOfAutism wrote:
You're talking about building an alternative society in a safe zone, built of diasporadic people (people made to leave their homelands because of their social group).

This alternative society, although small, would eventually be competition for the main society. It would have different formal and informal rules. Because it's small and self-contained, it would probably do very well. That success would be way more threatening than any possible failures. Regular, main society would attack it sooner or later.

It would also make the autistic people remaining in the main society more discriminated against. They would stick out like sore thumbs because no one else would be around who was like them. It would become mandatory for autistic people to go into the new, smaller society.

Historically, things like this have been tried and failed with black people and jewish people. Whenever they start doing well, their society is sabotaged. Rosewood in the US post slavery is a good example, and the jewish bankers pre-1900 in Europe.

If autistic people lived in main society, but were in small family type groups, this would work better, but it would strengthen the idea that autistic people are not like others. Autistic people would become a class similar to black people in the US. A minority class identified by small details in appearance and behavior. Easier for neurotypicals to classify people as autistic, and harder for autistic people to blend in if they want.

Interesting idea though.


I assumed this was more of a support center than a separate society.


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