'Hot bath eases symptoms of autism'

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17 Dec 2013, 7:05 am

http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/hot-bath- ... 38226.html

I have a bad feeling about this :roll:

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17 Dec 2013, 8:54 am

Anything that isolates a kid from others, gets a kid to relax, and occupies a kid with a mundane, repetitive task will relieve the symptoms of social anxiety. A box of crayons and a blank wall in an empty room will accomplish the same thing.

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17 Dec 2013, 11:36 am

Article said that a not so warm bath didn't do anything.

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17 Dec 2013, 12:12 pm

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http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/hot-bath- ... 38226.html

'Hot baths could be a temporary way for parents of autism sufferers to reduce their children's symptoms.

'New research has found that autistic children who sit in hot water for half an hour or more show better communication and social skills and are less likely to turn to repetitive actions. . . '

Oh, boy. Well, okay, sure, sometimes stimming is a distraction and is itself the problem. Other times, stimming is a very positive thing that helps to deal with sensory issues, helps to maintain concentration, and at still other times adds to positive experiences and adds joy of life.

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'Researchers noticed that autistic children often showed improvement in their symptoms when they had a fever, so they investigated 10 children who had experienced this to see if the temperature of their bath could also help.'

Well, first off, please notice the small size of the study. And then, I'm familiar with the idea that some autism might be caused by autoimmune conditions. This hints at a related but different idea that some autism might be caused by infection.

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17 Dec 2013, 1:04 pm

Now I would have titled this thread, "Eating Parasitic worms eases symptoms of Autism".

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17 Dec 2013, 1:22 pm

And from a book I recently read of one mother's account of working and fighting to get the right care for her son with OCD.

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Saving Sammy: Curing the Boy Who Caught OCD, Beth Alison Maloney, 2009.

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I was at my desk the following day when I heard loud pounding coming from the second floor. I ran downstairs and screamed. Sammy was banging his head against the sliding glass door.

"Sammy! Stop! Stop!" I yelled.

"I can't!" he sobbed. "It's like a mental itch!"

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Pages 221-22:

Augmentin is an extremely powerful antibiotic that is often prescribed when penicillin is not effective. It is largely composed of penicillin, but it also contains something called clavulanic acid. Clavulanic acid prevents the breakdown of penicillin,; it makes the penicillin more effective. I often wondered why Augmentin had worked for Sammy when so many other powerful antibiotics had failed him.

I started thinking about inflammation in Sammy's brain after I read an article in the New York Times about Alzheimer's and Augmentin. It reported that when a group of Alzheimer's patients were given daily doses of Augmentin, their memories improved. The article quoted experts who theorized the possibility of inflammation in the patients' brains. I also had anecdotal information about elderly patients who made remarkable recoveries when fluid was released from their brains. Perhaps fluid on the brain creates a pressure similar to swelling. The body swelled when it was pounded; why not the brain when assaulted by antibodies? Could this be the "mental itch" that had caused Sammy to bang his head when he first got sick?

Dr. Nicolaides believes there is something to the anti-inflammatory premise. One of her PANDAS patients, who also suffered from asthma, had his OCD symptoms abate when he took prednisone for the asthma. Prednisone is a steroid that is also an anti-inflammatory. As the prednisone was withdrawn, the OCD symptoms returned. This led her to believe that there was inflammation in the basal ganglia. She wondered if perhaps swelling is caused when the antibodies and antigens react.

Okay, so a couple of single patient reports, which are also called anecdotal reports. Plus, the one study in the New York Times about Alzheimer's. But it is intriguing. I think it's worth exploring further.

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17 Dec 2013, 2:48 pm

The greater number of "cure" articles posted increases the likelihood that an article that contains an actual cure will be posted.

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18 Dec 2013, 9:20 pm

So, autistic kids who spend time relaxing subsequently do less of the stuff autistic people do when they're stressed? Amazing.

I often enjoy spending the evening in a hot bath reading a good book. I wonder if I could get my health insurance to pay the water bill now? :lol:

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19 Dec 2013, 7:34 am

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So, autistic kids who spend time relaxing subsequently do less of the stuff autistic people do when they're stressed? Amazing.

Just what I was thinking.

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19 Dec 2013, 10:12 am

Could it be warm baths are relaxing, so it temporarily lowers stress levels?

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19 Dec 2013, 11:21 pm

Funny I just posted the same thing just a different source on the general discussion forum. :lol:

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20 Dec 2013, 7:58 am

Or could it be that the benevolence of the heat mitigates the coexistence of anxiety that is abundantly prevalent in ASD's?

I take it that these "researchers" have never thought that stimming can help alleviate the struggle of sensory issues, as-well as enhancing retainment of engrossment. This is one of the worst, yet intellectually insinuating cure propagandizement "studies" I've ever encountered, and it's unsurprising that the Daily Fail is endorsing this scientifically groundless quackery also.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... -bath.html

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20 Dec 2013, 9:00 am

If my natural mother were alive to read this article, she'd be all like, "NO s**t SHERLOCK!!"

Other things my mother would list that may temporarily relieve some symptoms of autism:

Being taken for a bike ride. She had one of those strap-on bike seats for me; I remember being about six years old and still getting shuttled up and down the street in that thing (I didn't have the coordination and risk tolerance to ride myself until I was about 10).

Being in the woods. I always seemed calmer on or after going hiking or spending the weekend with my dad, who lived out in the boonies.

Long car rides. Still love them.

Swimming. I might not have had the gross motor coordination to pedal a bike, but I could swim almost before I could walk. Even as a small child, I FELT BETTER in the water.

Jumping on the bed (or a trampoline). She just outright let me jump on her bed. She said it made me a nicer person. Remembering that, I used to keep an old double mattress for my kids to jump on. Now I have multiple mini-tramps.

Swings. I had one in my grandma's basement. I lived in that damn thing through a great deal of early childhood. Swinging back and forth, singing "Old Black Joe" and "Suannee River." Oh, dear, the NAACP would not be pleased...

Yeah-- Leaving an autistic kid the hell alone in a tub of warm water with a few bath toys for half an hour helps... REVOLUTIONARY!! !

I swear, the older I get, the more I realize how blindingly intelligent my parents were.

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22 Dec 2013, 12:37 pm

Hot baths relive symptoms of stress.

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22 Dec 2013, 12:50 pm

Who doesn't enjoy a nice hot bath? I'm not at all surprised that autistic individuals, or really anyone for that matter, would feel less stressed-out after one. It's kind of like saying that the Pope is Catholic.

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23 Sep 2015, 12:05 am

hmmm interesting...my mother used to throw me in the COLD shower when she got upset with me :-( today I never take cold showers...

PS my son loved warm baths...once diagnosed, I allowed him to take as many as he wanted during the day...he almost lived in the bathtub lol he's doing great 9+ years later!

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