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14 Feb 2016, 10:23 am

(I'm sorry if someone else has already posted this. I looked this up on the search bar and didn't find any posts about this.)

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ATLANTA, Nov. 13 (UPI) -- A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows a significant increase in the number of children diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder or another related developmental disability.

The study, published by the CDC as part of its National Center for Health Statistics Report, found that 1 in 45 children has been diagnosed with a disability on the autism spectrum, a large increase from the previous estimate of 1 in 68 children in 2014. Researchers were quick, however, to note the increase likely comes from a change in survey methods, including surveying parents and changes to questions.


http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/11/13/CDC-survey-1-in-45-children-have-autism/4131447426941/



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14 Feb 2016, 3:27 pm

Despite what it says, I bet this causes some kind of widespread "OH NO AUTISM IS BECOMING MORE COMMON!! !" and also "Hah! This proves [insert suggested autism cause] doesn't cause autism because it hasn't become more common but autism has! [never mind the fact that use of the alleged cause peaked at the time the kids in the study were born]" :x

The fact that they surveyed parents to get this number seems significant. If I remember right, when they surveyed parents about ADHD, the result was that 50% of kids had ADHD. (Yes, fifty percent, one in two.)


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14 Feb 2016, 7:44 pm

Cyllya1 wrote:
Despite what it says, I bet this causes some kind of widespread "OH NO AUTISM IS BECOMING MORE COMMON!! !" and also "Hah! This proves [insert suggested autism cause] doesn't cause autism because it hasn't become more common but autism has! [never mind the fact that use of the alleged cause peaked at the time the kids in the study were born]" :x

The fact that they surveyed parents to get this number seems significant. If I remember right, when they surveyed parents about ADHD, the result was that 50% of kids had ADHD. (Yes, fifty percent, one in two.)


I'm wondering if this is bogus too. If autism really occurs 1 in 45 children, there would be a much larger autism community. There would be more understanding of autism as a whole.



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15 Feb 2016, 12:51 am

goofygoobers wrote:
Cyllya1 wrote:
Despite what it says, I bet this causes some kind of widespread "OH NO AUTISM IS BECOMING MORE COMMON!! !" and also "Hah! This proves [insert suggested autism cause] doesn't cause autism because it hasn't become more common but autism has! [never mind the fact that use of the alleged cause peaked at the time the kids in the study were born]" :x

The fact that they surveyed parents to get this number seems significant. If I remember right, when they surveyed parents about ADHD, the result was that 50% of kids had ADHD. (Yes, fifty percent, one in two.)


I'm wondering if this is bogus too. If autism really occurs 1 in 45 children, there would be a much larger autism community. There would be more understanding of autism as a whole.


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15 Feb 2016, 5:00 am

goofygoobers wrote:
Cyllya1 wrote:
Despite what it says, I bet this causes some kind of widespread "OH NO AUTISM IS BECOMING MORE COMMON!! !" and also "Hah! This proves [insert suggested autism cause] doesn't cause autism because it hasn't become more common but autism has! [never mind the fact that use of the alleged cause peaked at the time the kids in the study were born]" :x

The fact that they surveyed parents to get this number seems significant. If I remember right, when they surveyed parents about ADHD, the result was that 50% of kids had ADHD. (Yes, fifty percent, one in two.)


I'm wondering if this is bogus too. If autism really occurs 1 in 45 children, there would be a much larger autism community. There would be more understanding of autism as a whole.

I think it might be related to the fact that a lot of people see autism as a kind of sickness. They don't want their children to be seen as sick, or not normal. I'm sure a lot of the surveyed autistic kids go to normal classes in normal schools and (try to) live relatively normal lives, just like I did.

What I'm wondering about is whether the autistic community will ever be large enough so that people will stop treating it as a deformity, and find a less discriminative label for it, just how they banned the term "negro" (which is a popular Hungarian brand of hard candy, by the way). The term "neurodiverse" already exists, but it kind of suggests that people who are not labeled as such aren't diverse, which isn't true.



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15 Feb 2016, 12:50 pm

goofygoobers wrote:
Cyllya1 wrote:
Despite what it says, I bet this causes some kind of widespread "OH NO AUTISM IS BECOMING MORE COMMON!! !" and also "Hah! This proves [insert suggested autism cause] doesn't cause autism because it hasn't become more common but autism has! [never mind the fact that use of the alleged cause peaked at the time the kids in the study were born]" :x

The fact that they surveyed parents to get this number seems significant. If I remember right, when they surveyed parents about ADHD, the result was that 50% of kids had ADHD. (Yes, fifty percent, one in two.)


I'm wondering if this is bogus too. If autism really occurs 1 in 45 children, there would be a much larger autism community. There would be more understanding of autism as a whole.

I don't know... sometimes I wonder about misdiagnosis.... or how with small children they might be over generalizing a 2/3 year olds behaviors as autistic when they out grow them by like the next year or six months or something. Although I hardly think that it would be possible for a person to present as autistic if they were indeed not autistic. At least they covered their asses and said in the long run- well this is from better testing/surveying.
Although, I wonder. I don't know! Interesting though. I do think the numbers would be closer to 1 in 50 basically, but that's just my non-evidence-based idea lol.



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15 Feb 2016, 8:13 pm

The increase is illusory IMO. In the past 4 decades, a lot of ASD kids who had the comorbid of ADHD were diagnosed with ADHD because it was heavily publicised at the time, and was 'in vogue' as a diagnosis to explain learning and other difficulties. So their presence on the spectrum was missed. Now diagnostically, there seems to be the opposite vogue. So the 'apparent' incidence of autism is misconstrued as rapidly increasing.

My own guess is that the proportion of people with some or all attributes of ASD (including the much under-recognised BAP) would perhaps amount to 5% of the population - five in every hundred, 1 in every 20 - and that this has been constant over time, and always will be unless the eugenicists and ASD haters gain more political power and influence.

While there is no one specific gene for autism - the genetic research is clear on that - ASDs are highly heritable (the research is also pretty clear on that). The current view is that there are at least several and perhaps many different genetic patterns of inheritance.

What has really changed over time amongst other things - apart from the extreme politicization of autism in the USA - is that tolerance for eccentricity in Western culture and politics generally is much lower now than it used to be, so there tends to be more hysteria over any other kind of difference that does not fit conformist/individualist ideology. (It is something of an irony that doctrine of individualism is remarkably conformist in its current political manifestations).



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15 Feb 2016, 8:33 pm

B19 wrote:
The increase is illusory IMO. In the past 4 decades, a lot of ASD kids who had the comorbid of ADHD were diagnosed with ADHD because it was heavily publicised at the time, and was 'in vogue' as a diagnosis to explain learning and other difficulties. So their presence on the spectrum was missed. Now diagnostically, there seems to be the opposite vogue. So the 'apparent' incidence of autism is misconstrued as rapidly increasing.

My own guess is that the proportion of people with some or all attributes of ASD (including the much under-recognised BAP) would perhaps amount to 5% of the population - five in every hundred, 1 in every 20 - and that this has been constant over time, and always will be unless the eugenicists and ASD haters gain more political power and influence.

While there is no one specific gene for autism - the genetic research is clear on that - ASDs are highly heritable (the research is also pretty clear on that). The current view is that there are at least several and perhaps many different genetic patterns of inheritance.

What has really changed over time amongst other things - apart from the extreme politicization of autism in the USA - is that tolerance for eccentricity in Western culture and politics generally is much lower now than it used to be, so there tends to be more hysteria over any other kind of difference that does not fit conformist/individualist ideology. (It is something of an irony that doctrine of individualism is remarkably conformist in its current political manifestations).


Word. Especially to that last bit I emphasised. I've also noticed this trend--the anti-eccentricity cultural phenomenon seems to me wrapped up with anti-intellectualism, too. They seem to go hand-in-hand: thinking is bad; thinking differently is very bad; and thinking critically is the greatest faux-pas. Passing for some intangible concept of "normal" is critical, yet we are all special individual snowflakes.

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17 Feb 2016, 8:40 am

The results really aren't that surprising...

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From the graph:

CDC wrote:
In 2014, the wording was expanded to include "Autism, Asperger's Disorder, pervasive developmental disorder, and autism spectrum disorder."


Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr087.pdf (See page 7)

Anyway, shouldn't this be a "Sticky" thread in GAD? It's probably more relevant than the current 5 stickied threads there... combined.



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17 Feb 2016, 11:00 am

GGPViper wrote:
The results really aren't that surprising...

Image

From the graph:

CDC wrote:
In 2014, the wording was expanded to include "Autism, Asperger's Disorder, pervasive developmental disorder, and autism spectrum disorder."


Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr087.pdf (See page 7)

Anyway, shouldn't this be a "Sticky" thread in GAD? It's probably more relevant than the current 5 stickied threads there... combined.


How does one make a sticky thread?



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17 Feb 2016, 11:06 am

The increase is incidence, as far as I'm concerned, is owing to both a broader definition of autism and a greater awareness of it.

There's no "epidemic."



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17 Feb 2016, 11:10 am

B19 wrote:

What has really changed over time amongst other things - apart from the extreme politicization of autism in the USA - is that tolerance for eccentricity in Western culture and politics generally is much lower now than it used to be, so there tends to be more hysteria over any other kind of difference that does not fit conformist/individualist ideology. (It is something of an irony that doctrine of individualism is remarkably conformist in its current political manifestations).

this, well said!