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Sahn
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07 Dec 2019, 1:27 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ted-murder

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An autistic teenager has pleaded guilty to attempted murder after throwing a six-year-old boy from a viewing platform at the Tate Modern art gallery.



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The defendant also told the police he heard voices in his head telling him to kill or injure someone.



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11 Dec 2019, 2:34 pm

Last I knew, people whose only diagnosis was autism didn't have voices in their heads telling them to do bad things.

Dissociative, perhaps?



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11 Dec 2019, 3:32 pm

Archmage Arcane wrote:
Last I knew, people whose only diagnosis was autism didn't have voices in their heads telling them to do bad things.

Dissociative, perhaps?


Psychotic?

Autism is mentioned in the first sentence. Much later in the article its revealed that he hears voices. I've seen more sensitive reporting in the tabloids recently.



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11 Dec 2019, 3:49 pm

domineekee wrote:
Archmage Arcane wrote:
Last I knew, people whose only diagnosis was autism didn't have voices in their heads telling them to do bad things.

Dissociative, perhaps?


Psychotic?

Autism is mentioned in the first sentence. Much later in the article its revealed that he hears voices. I've seen more sensitive reporting in the tabloids recently.


Well typically hearing voices is associated with psychotic illnesses like schizophrenia and and schizoaffective disorder.

Not sure I buy that he was having psychosis at the time however since he pre-meditated it and had specific motivations for why he wanted to do it. I certainly don't see him being considered insane at the time of the crime..and the article does not mention him having a psychotic disorder just OCD, Autism and potentially a personality disorder.

It says he claims to have heard voices but it doesn't seem very consistent with his claims of having pre-planned it himself.


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11 Dec 2019, 4:04 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Archmage Arcane wrote:
Last I knew, people whose only diagnosis was autism didn't have voices in their heads telling them to do bad things.

Dissociative, perhaps?


Psychotic?

Autism is mentioned in the first sentence. Much later in the article its revealed that he hears voices. I've seen more sensitive reporting in the tabloids recently.


Well typically hearing voices is associated with psychotic illnesses like schizophrenia and and schizoaffective disorder.

Not sure I buy that he was having psychosis at the time however since he pre-meditated it and had specific motivations for why he wanted to do it. I certainly don't see him being considered insane at the time of the crime..and the article does not mention him having a psychotic disorder just OCD, Autism and potentially a personality disorder.

It says he claims to have heard voices but it doesn't seem very consistent with his claims of having pre-planned it himself.

You're right in your analysis. I'm still surprised that he was dubbed as "autistic teenager" by The Guardian.



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11 Dec 2019, 10:08 pm

Would they start off the story with "A gay teenager....", "A Muslim teenager....", "A dyslexic teenager....", or "An overweight teenager...."? Of course not. But it's somehow acceptable to lead off the story by identifying him as autistic, which implies that autism is responsible for his action and therefore that autistic people are dangerous.

Terrible.


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