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Do you smoke?
yes 24%  24%  [ 16 ]
no 76%  76%  [ 52 ]
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30 Jan 2015, 1:00 am

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I also BMX & ski off cliffs... quite a lot more than I smoke tobacco. I see no reason for criticism regarding dangerous introspective habits & activities. People only own one body each. Plenty of blind-stinking-sober people run around nuking & shelling each other like that's totally justifiable...


Right on.


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08 Feb 2015, 1:01 pm

Sweetleaf, a good e-cig is the Kanger EMOW, if someone makes the liquid correctly then it works as a good alternative to conventional cigarettes.



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08 Feb 2015, 1:16 pm

I don't gamble (unless it is the veeeery random Lotto or Keno) because when I did, my mind was always calculating the odds against myself.

Same thing with smoking anything; why pay for that?


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08 Feb 2015, 1:39 pm

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Yes I do. About two packs a day of full flavor 100's. They are only $3.70 a pack here though so it's not all that bad. However I'm going to quit again soon. My Obamacare will be working Feb 1 so I'll go get some Welbutrin then and quit again.

However, Alex I do have to disagree with you about it being the most self destructive thing. I'd put a couple of illegal drugs up there before cigarettes, and also drinking. However I think it's the most destructive socially acceptable thing to do, although it's not as acceptable in many places as it used to be.

My best friend used to be on crystal meth then when she got off of it she met this douchebag who got her into heroin. Now she's doing that and also back on the meth from time to time. She also smokes cigarettes. I'm just waiting on the phone call telling me she's OD'd cause I know that's coming. She's addicted to the drugs and she's actually quit smoking a few times and it's not that difficult for her. However, she can't go two days without heroin without getting sick. Considering what all is in meth, and all the insane risks of heroin, I would so much rather people smoke cigs than use any of that horrible crap.

My mother smoked for 65 years and died from complications of pneumonia, not the cancer that she always expected to get. That sort of gives me hope that I won't get cancer, but then again I try not to think about it all that much. Worrying about cancer from smoking makes me nervous which makes me smoke more lol.

I'm looking forward to quitting with the Welbutrin again. It's totally painless that way. No being a total b***h, no mood swings, no cravings, etc. Cigs just suddenly taste horrible and I don't enjoy them. I just miss the habit itself, not the smoking. I'm pretty sure I'll post about it when I get the script and when I quit. :-)


I cant take wellbutrin, it is way to stimulating causes motor difficulties like rigid movement and difficulty gripping things I broke one of my cannabis pipes when I tried that medication because I didn't have full control over movement...and it caused some weird visual things like things seemed to be moving the way they might if you look at something stationary while riding a merry go around or something. It was a lot like when I experimented with adderal(just tried some because someone had it and was curious but have never been prescribed it), except more unpleasant and without any real 'high' like the adderall caused

So I do not have that option to attempt not smoking, though when I was taking it I did still smoke it just tasted grosser, I usually just try to limit how much I smoke...also my grandma on my dads side has smoked for years and never developed any kind of cancer I think it is partially genetic for instance someone with genetics more prone to develop cancer would be more likely to get cancer than smoking than someone with genes that are more resilient to that. Then you have cases of people with no genetic pre-disposition, who never smoke and still get cancer :? its strange how these things work.


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08 Feb 2015, 1:46 pm

RegularJohn wrote:
Tobacco use is the single most preventable cause of disease, disability, and death in the United States. Each year, an estimated 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke, and another 8.6 million live with a serious illness caused by smoking.Nov 16, 2012-From centers of disease control and prevention

Comparisons are unnecessary when you think about it


How do they know for a fact it is specifically cigarette smoke though? what about air quality where someone lives, I think there are carcinogens in the air that do not come from cigarettes...so how do they know in these cases some of that isn't the culprit rather than cigarettes specifically.

Of course I am not discounting that smoking carries risks, but I would like to see more in depth information.


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08 Feb 2015, 1:47 pm

Aniihya wrote:
Sweetleaf, a good e-cig is the Kanger EMOW, if someone makes the liquid correctly then it works as a good alternative to conventional cigarettes.


Maybe I will take a look at that...otherwise I'll just see what they have at the nearby headshops.


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09 Feb 2015, 6:23 pm

I have allergy & sinus problems so just being around 2nd-hand smoke bothers me.


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11 Feb 2015, 12:19 am

RegularJohn wrote:
Tobacco use is the single most preventable cause of disease, disability, and death in the United States. Each year, an estimated 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke, and another 8.6 million live with a serious illness caused by smoking.Nov 16, 2012-From centers of disease control and prevention

Comparisons are unnecessary when you think about it


The comparisons came about in this thread when one person said something like smoking is probably the most self destructive thing you can do to yourself. That is an implied comparison. I'm glad that statement was made, otherwise this would be a boring thread. There are all kinds of self destructive habits out there. I, and the people before me made comparisons b/c we feel smoking in way down on the list of self destructive things you can do to yourself. When you consider heroin, meth, crack, or a lot of other things.

Cigarette consumption statistics are so profound b/c smoking cigs is legal and always has been. So they've had ample time to collect plenty of data showing how harmful it is. Plus, in the past, people would readily admit they smoke two packs a day without shame (b/c it was the norm). Giving them plenty of data to process and show that smoking tobacco is harmful to your health.

People who smoke meth, or crack. Do you think they're going to admit it? If they do, they might end up in prison. So there's no real bulk of data to process on what that can do to you.


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23 Feb 2015, 1:42 am

I do not smoke and never will even though I used to hang out with smokers I kept my distance.



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25 Feb 2015, 12:35 pm

I smoke about one cigar every weekend. Usually a Swisher, because that usually is what I can afford, but when I can spring for it, I would prefer a Cohiba.



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27 Feb 2015, 6:08 am

I smoked some cigarettes (last time was yesterday) but I don't buy them myself. I don't smoke because I like it, but when someone offers me one, I won't refuse.



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28 Feb 2015, 5:24 am

I used to smoke weed every day for a few years. When I quit weed, I switched to cigarettes which I know is worse... but eh, it sometimes helps with the anxiety.



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28 Feb 2015, 12:30 pm

No. I don't smoke e-cigarettes either.



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01 Mar 2015, 8:21 am

I've said this a few times before, but I'll say it again here. There's absolutely nothing good about smoking.

It's very damaging to health.
It's a waste of money.
It stinks.
Smokers look trashy.
Smokers are very unattractive.

Just my opinions.



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01 Mar 2015, 8:39 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Aniihya wrote:
Sweetleaf, a good e-cig is the Kanger EMOW, if someone makes the liquid correctly then it works as a good alternative to conventional cigarettes.


Maybe I will take a look at that...otherwise I'll just see what they have at the nearby headshops.


Look into making kief
You can buy or make your own kief box
Make tincture from the kief
And enjoy your medicinal without as much as a puff :wink:



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11 Mar 2015, 8:35 pm

I never have smoked, and never will. I'm quite proud of the fact that I'm the only one in my immediate family that has never smoked. I could possibly outlive the rest of my family.