Why do the poor become fat?

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It's not. I deliberately heated it in the oven to avoid the frying oil. I made it from scratch, so I know what it contains.



If you want to keep the nutrients and the vitamins, the peel needs to be on. As previously mentioned, I get the nutrients from eggs primarily, which I ate for breakfast. Eggs are even cheaper.



Potatoes have a glucemic index of 58--that's the same as brown rice. You're confusing regular potatoes with baked potatoes. You're also missing the fact that potatoes are high in fiber, high in kalium and to top it of, only 81 calories per 100 grams (these mashed potatoes have 90 grams due to added vegetable oil). For comparison, bread is 250 calories per 100 grams.



People get new ideas on what's carcinogenic all the time. I would put too much effort into this.



No need for that. Eggs contain all the nutrients except C vitamins, which I get from fruit and multivitamins. Ironically, basing your diet primarily on vegetables may make you fat unless you manage to burn the carbohydrates quickly.

I do carb cycling; on non-workout days (where I still like to go for a walk with the dog in the forrest for an hour or two), vegetables in large doses would just be excess calories and my diet needs to be high in unsaturated fats and proteins.



As previously stated: Very healthy. I don't think there's anything healthier than chicken.



Depends on what brand I'm using. Currently, I use a brand that tastes like sh!t, but offers all the vitamins in one pill. In the winter, I also take extra omega-3.

so you take no other protein supplements or any other pills? you don't swallow any other supplements of any kind throughout the day?

the glycemic index for boiled potatoes is still high enough that it can cause a blood sugar drop. your meal was not a healthy balanced one by any stretch of the imagination.

your diet advice is completely irrelevant to other people. so what if you spread your vitamins throughout the day. all you are offeing in that picture is a completely unbalanced meal that will not help someone who is not you.

it's funny that you think people should worry about obesity, but not about carcinogens. that is whack.

If there's anything I learned from this thread, f**k Norway.

I use whey protein supplements. That's the only food that's cheap here compared to the US.



Not moreso than brown rice or oat meal. Blood sugar drops are caused by white bread or foods very high in sugar.



There's really nothing unhealthy about it.



A meal high in protein (which 90% of all people get too little of), low saturated fat, moderate glukemic index and enough vegetables on a non-workout day meal.



What's carcinogenic and what's not changes all the time. If you genuinely want to avoid cancer, don't jump on a band wagon just because someone says so. Instead, avoid charred food, pork, sugar or alcohol.

so, instead of jumping on THAT bandwagon, jump on the bandwagons that you personally recommend. got it. i am not personally worried about cancer, it was just a good link about the glycemic index.

better choices for the carb portion of your meal would be barley, bulgur wheat, or chickpeas and the like. especially if you want to lose weight or stay slim. so your food choices are not great for people who struggle with obesity. glycemic index is a huge concern for people who want to avoid obesity, and that is what this topic is regarding. so your advice to eat potatoes or brown rice is not too helpful.

http://www.diabetes.ca/files/glycemicindex_08.pdf

and people should be eating more vegetables than that as well. it helps for many reasons, not just for getting vitamins. it's also integral for managing blood sugar and proviging healthy fibre.

your meal could actually be detrimental to someone who was trying to avoid gaining weight.

It's been known for a long time that the high prevalence of cancer is due to charred food, excess consumption of saturated fat and alcohol.



You'll get enough fibers if you eat your oat meal. If a man eats too much fiber (something that'll happen soon enough if he just eats vegetables), his testosterone levels will plummet.

If you want to loose weight very quickly, just drop the potatoes from the dish I posted. The price tag is now 2.50 for more than 60 grams of protein at roughly 600 calories. (I'll take the liberty of mentioning the fact that Walmart offers 1 lb of ground chicken for one measly dollar.)

If it's really urgent, replace all your vegetables with multivitamins and supplements and go on a ketosis diet.

The masai people eat a lot, yet obesity is almost unheard of in their tribes. The same goes for heart disease and cancer.



That depends. I don't eat that much every meal. I eat more for dinner than I do for supper or lunch.

Eating a combination of saturated fats and carbohydrates with too little protein.

I think you'll find that potatoes are a starch.
Further.. that's damn cheap.
Cucumbers around me are $1+ those potatoes from a bag would have cost me around $1.25-$1.50 in a single bag and maybe at best $0.75 in a larger box and while chicken is cheap its not cheap enough to keep that meal under $3.
I can assure you that no amount of bulk purchasing or sales will put that meal at a dollar and change.

You continue to show your lack of knowledge about anything in the US...or in nutrition for that matter.

You guys are depressing me with your small meals and strict diets.
When did 6 bites of chicken 4 bites of potatoes and some cucumber slices become a big meal?

No walmart I've ever been in offers a pound of anything for a $1 by the way.

Actually that's why I was surprised, Kurgan. Norway is expensive as all hell. That meal would have in fact cost me a dollar and change to make. Boned chicken breasts go for like $1-1.50lb here at the discount grocery stores, boneless about $2, a box of mashed potatoes is like... I dunno a buck and change, not much, and I don't know, potatoes are like...$3-4 for 10lbs. A whole cucumber is like a buck, and you got like 1/3 of a cucumber in slices there.

That said...not enough food for me. But I eat like a gazillion million calories a day, and now I'm having more sensible meals similar to that in a serious attempt to get to 10% bodyfat or so. My current meals have been more like, get dried shiitake mushrooms ($2 for 3oz dried at the Asian market) and some ground beef, and make philly style wraps with them. Shiitakes make me feel awesome, I also boil the shiitakes and drink the broth as tea, it's a bit like beef broth. It's got medicinal properties for the immune system and all that fun stuff. So why take supps when you can just buy food/herbs?

Ugh, man, how do you survive?

Actually, where I live, a dinner with that many chicken nuggets would most likely be about four fifty, maybe more, depending if I am cooking it myself or buying it at a fast food location. Those kinds of chicken nuggets would go for around seven bucks at fast food. And at a fast food restaurant, there's also french fries instead of mash potatoes except for KFC and there wouldn't be a cucumber.

It's hard to put a price tag on that meal coming out of the fridge and freezer at home. Looks like you have six nuggets in your picture. A bag of frozen chicken nuggets costs close to eight bucks at the store and six nuggets that size wouldn't leave a lot left over. The mashed potatoes would be the cheapest thing there. Probably less than fifty cents either way, flakes or fresh potato. It would cost a little more if it came from ready made mashed potatoes like Country Crock or similar. Bob Evans makes a good mashed potato. The cucumbers were practically free when they were in season about a week ago. Three for a dollar and these were giants. So, that would be the cheapest for sure when they are in season. Rest of the time it would cost more than the potatoes.

He made the nuggets himself out of ground chicken. Here I pay $2.50lb for ground chicken. 1.99lb ground turkey. I also do own a meat grinder too (never use it, though) so I could grind the super cheap breasts and have it come out cheaper.

i didn't use a full bag of mashed potatoes. Ground chicken is a dollar at Walmart.



Perhaps many Americans are ignorant about the rest of the world, are unaware of the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them, and that they're usually no worse off than Europeans.



It makes you feel full and gives you nutrients. The dinner plate is large, though, so it looks smaller than it is.



Depends on what brand you're looking at.

That's something completely different. I haven't had any made from ground meat. That sounds like a hamburger made from ground chicken and turkey instead of beef, breaded, then fried. Not sure what that would be like but it would be cheaper than buying the frozen nuggets or fast food.

There's also the price of the oil to consider unless you fry them in cheap lard. Oil can be costly, depending on what's being used.

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I haven't priced ground chicken so I don't know how much it is. Turkey can be cheap when it is ground or bacon.

He baked them. Pretty much homemade shake and bake. I think he did use eggs, though. So no oil. And the darker meat is more similar to burgers but if you get it white meat it'll taste like chicken I guess. I've never attempted homemade chicken nuggets, either, though.

One thing I do for ground turkey/chicken to make it taste similar to beef is I add soy sauce and Worcestershire sauce to it, to darken the meat color.

And frozen nuggets are made from ground meat, the cheapest ones use yummy mechanically separated chicken. Mmm... http://eater.com/uploads/mechanically-s ... -serve.jpg Thus why the cheapest nuggets are darker meat and more expensive are white, and the more expensive white ones are made from chicken ribs, not breasts, where they'll put the ribs through the mechanical separator thing to force the meat off them with pressure, and then add stuff to "fluff" the mixture a bit, and tada, chicken nuggets.