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22 Jul 2012, 7:09 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
What's involved with being "forced" into eating something?
To me, the word means literal, gun-to-head, pain of injury or death...


I once made the mistake of taking "forced" literally too. That's why I was a fanatical Libertarian for a while after graduating university. It's the same way I'm not technically "forced" to have a job. I'd just lost my apartment and would be condemned to a miserable existence. It's also similar to one company I know that has "voluntary" social gatherings. Sure, you aren't forced at gunpoint to go but you can kiss your career there goodbye if you keep missing them.



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22 Jul 2012, 9:17 pm

So...I mean, what does it mean to be "forced" to eat something, then?
In terms of your examples, I have no idea how not eating XYZ food would result in anything I'd consider on par with loss of one's livelihood or shelter....


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23 Jul 2012, 2:08 am

How can you possibly mix morality and food? Just how is beyond me.

Sit your boyfriend down and tell him to get some meat in him and hit the weights. Humans are predators, if there was a greater predator than us, we would simply one lower in the food chain.



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23 Jul 2012, 8:45 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
In terms of your examples, I have no idea how not eating XYZ food would result in anything I'd consider on par with loss of one's livelihood or shelter....


I know in my case people automatically assumed in the past because you have special food needs that you are somehow a defective person or are just anti-social and not willing it admit it. It's not so bad now but to make a long story short, it likely cost me a chance at a high paying job. Granted it's probably for the best but never underestimate the ignorance of people when it comes to differences!

I can't get into any details due to privacy, but yes, I know of career paths (not a chef or food related) where not eating XYZ WILL result in the loss of one's livelihood. Sad, but unfortunately in my experience true.



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23 Jul 2012, 12:01 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
How can you possibly mix morality and food? Just how is beyond me.

How would food be exempt from the general ethical principles people live by? I don't understand...
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Sit your boyfriend down and tell him to get some meat in him and hit the weights. Humans are predators, if there was a greater predator than us, we would simply one lower in the food chain.

I said nothing about having a boyfriend, or whether he ate animal products. I do have one, and he's been vegetarian since he was in seventh grade...but why did you presume both of those, and what does he have to do with Aspie food tendencies?
And why would I command him to do something we both find sensorily disgusting and in violation of our most basic morals?
Or something neither of us cares a stitch about ("hitting the weights")?

You're not making any sense...


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23 Jul 2012, 12:09 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:

I know in my case people automatically assumed in the past because you have special food needs that you are somehow a defective person or are just anti-social and not willing it admit it. It's not so bad now but to make a long story short, it likely cost me a chance at a high paying job. Granted it's probably for the best but never underestimate the ignorance of people when it comes to differences!

I can't get into any details due to privacy, but yes, I know of career paths (not a chef or food related) where not eating XYZ WILL result in the loss of one's livelihood. Sad, but unfortunately in my experience true.


Wow that's interesting/sad. I'm sorry. :cry:


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