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23 Jul 2012, 1:34 am

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her skin looks ok for her age, but would probably look better if she got less sun and was careful to moderate her exercise levels. over-exercising can cause skin to age prematurely (though she doesn't look older than her age, many people who exercise heavily do).


Exercise promotes circulation to the skin and increases the amount of nutrients that reaches the skin. Regular exercise keeps skin healthy and enables it to look and feel younger.

I don't know what source you are getting that from? The only thing that might age the skin is tensing the face when doing the exercises or lifting.

regular exercise is good, but excessive exercise is quite ageing (especially aerobic).


Are their any articles to support this theory? Any people with doctorates that have specifically stated this to be the case? Have scientific studies been conducted to prove it? Or is this just your own theory?



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23 Jul 2012, 1:34 am

i suppose if you like a masculine physique, she looks great. personally, i like looking somewhat softer.

girls with eating disorders are often obsessed with exercising, so that type of model isn't any more of a positive influence. her body fat looks to be lower than would be healthy for most women.

http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/10/23/too ... use-aging/


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23 Jul 2012, 1:35 am

Wolfheart wrote:
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hyperlexian wrote:
her skin looks ok for her age, but would probably look better if she got less sun and was careful to moderate her exercise levels. over-exercising can cause skin to age prematurely (though she doesn't look older than her age, many people who exercise heavily do).


Exercise promotes circulation to the skin and increases the amount of nutrients that reaches the skin. Regular exercise keeps skin healthy and enables it to look and feel younger.

I don't know what source you are getting that from? The only thing that might age the skin is tensing the face when doing the exercises or lifting.

regular exercise is good, but excessive exercise is quite ageing (especially aerobic).


Are their any articles to support this theory? Any people with doctorates that have specifically stated this to be the case? Have scientific studies been conducted to prove it? Or is this just your own theory?

you should know by now that i don't talk out of my ass. :D


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23 Jul 2012, 1:37 am

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i suppose if you like a masculine physique, she looks great. personally, i like looking somewhat softer.

girls with eating disorders are often obsessed with exercising, so that type of model isn't any more of a positive influence. her body fat looks to be lower than would be healthy for most women.

http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/10/23/too ... use-aging/


Actually fitness modelling promotes eating healthy and finding the right diet, it has no association with eating disorders. Fitness models have to learn about nutrition to a very good extent to shape their body how they need to be for certain shoots whereas fashion models are more likely to starve themselves.

Thoughts about that article: This is simply an excuse for people to miss out on training, simply an excuse for people to tell themselves doing good. Does this Sesame woman even have any type of doctorate or formal credential to back up her words?



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23 Jul 2012, 1:39 am

hyperlexian wrote:
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her skin looks ok for her age, but would probably look better if she got less sun and was careful to moderate her exercise levels. over-exercising can cause skin to age prematurely (though she doesn't look older than her age, many people who exercise heavily do).


Exercise promotes circulation to the skin and increases the amount of nutrients that reaches the skin. Regular exercise keeps skin healthy and enables it to look and feel younger.

I don't know what source you are getting that from? The only thing that might age the skin is tensing the face when doing the exercises or lifting.

regular exercise is good, but excessive exercise is quite ageing (especially aerobic).


Are their any articles to support this theory? Any people with doctorates that have specifically stated this to be the case? Have scientific studies been conducted to prove it? Or is this just your own theory?

you should know by now that i don't talk out of my ass. :D


So what do you propose? Should children and teenagers avoid exercise, eat fast food and simply not be educated on nutrition?



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23 Jul 2012, 1:40 am

Wolfheart wrote:
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i suppose if you like a masculine physique, she looks great. personally, i like looking somewhat softer.

girls with eating disorders are often obsessed with exercising, so that type of model isn't any more of a positive influence. her body fat looks to be lower than would be healthy for most women.

http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/10/23/too ... use-aging/


Actually fitness modelling promotes eating healthy and finding the right diet, it has no association with eating disorders. Fitness models have to learn about nutrition to a very good extent to shape their body how they need to be for certain shoots whereas fashion models are more likely to starve themselves.

Thoughts about that article: This is simply an excuse for people to miss out on training, simply an excuse for people to tell themselves doing good. Does this Sesame woman even have any type of doctorate or formal credential to back up her words?

you have my point backwards. girls with eating disorders often also over-exercise, so looking at pictures of women who may appear to exercise excessively and/or have low body fat, is not too healthy. perhaps showing them pictures of normal people and promoting that would be helpful.


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23 Jul 2012, 1:41 am

Wolfheart wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
her skin looks ok for her age, but would probably look better if she got less sun and was careful to moderate her exercise levels. over-exercising can cause skin to age prematurely (though she doesn't look older than her age, many people who exercise heavily do).


Exercise promotes circulation to the skin and increases the amount of nutrients that reaches the skin. Regular exercise keeps skin healthy and enables it to look and feel younger.

I don't know what source you are getting that from? The only thing that might age the skin is tensing the face when doing the exercises or lifting.

regular exercise is good, but excessive exercise is quite ageing (especially aerobic).


Are their any articles to support this theory? Any people with doctorates that have specifically stated this to be the case? Have scientific studies been conducted to prove it? Or is this just your own theory?

you should know by now that i don't talk out of my ass. :D


So what do you propose? Should children and teenagers avoid exercise, eat fast food and simply not be educated on nutrition?

i'm pretty sure i didn't say that. i think that people of all shapes and sizes should be celebrated, so that teenagers will have a healthy body image. i think eating well and exercising MODERATELY is a good idea too.


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23 Jul 2012, 1:42 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
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i suppose if you like a masculine physique, she looks great. personally, i like looking somewhat softer.

girls with eating disorders are often obsessed with exercising, so that type of model isn't any more of a positive influence. her body fat looks to be lower than would be healthy for most women.

http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/10/23/too ... use-aging/


Actually fitness modelling promotes eating healthy and finding the right diet, it has no association with eating disorders. Fitness models have to learn about nutrition to a very good extent to shape their body how they need to be for certain shoots whereas fashion models are more likely to starve themselves.

Thoughts about that article: This is simply an excuse for people to miss out on training, simply an excuse for people to tell themselves doing good. Does this Sesame woman even have any type of doctorate or formal credential to back up her words?

you have my point backwards. girls with eating disorders often also over-exercise, so looking at pictures of women who may appear to exercise excessively and/or have low body fat, is not too healthy. perhaps showing them pictures of normal people and promoting that would be helpful.


I think you are getting the forms of exercise mixed up, girls with eating disorders do High intensity cardio workouts without actually studying that it is doing more damage than good, they aren't exercising in moderation or taking into account the different types of training.

They are simply following some diet they heard about on America's Next Top Model and doing some cardio routine that has been suggested by gossiping friends.



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23 Jul 2012, 1:44 am

Wolfheart wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
i suppose if you like a masculine physique, she looks great. personally, i like looking somewhat softer.

girls with eating disorders are often obsessed with exercising, so that type of model isn't any more of a positive influence. her body fat looks to be lower than would be healthy for most women.

http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/10/23/too ... use-aging/


Actually fitness modelling promotes eating healthy and finding the right diet, it has no association with eating disorders. Fitness models have to learn about nutrition to a very good extent to shape their body how they need to be for certain shoots whereas fashion models are more likely to starve themselves.

Thoughts about that article: This is simply an excuse for people to miss out on training, simply an excuse for people to tell themselves doing good. Does this Sesame woman even have any type of doctorate or formal credential to back up her words?

you have my point backwards. girls with eating disorders often also over-exercise, so looking at pictures of women who may appear to exercise excessively and/or have low body fat, is not too healthy. perhaps showing them pictures of normal people and promoting that would be helpful.


I think you are getting the forms of exercise mixed up, girls with eating disorders do High intensity cardio workouts without actually studying that it is doing more damage than good, they aren't exercising in moderation or taking into account the different types of training.

They are simply following some diet they heard about on America's Next Top Model and doing some cardio routine that has been suggested by gossiping friends.

no, you don't really know very much about eating disorders, evidently.

did you actually read the sources attached to the article? it was actual research. maybe you just glanced at the first paragraph lol


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23 Jul 2012, 1:48 am

welcome to your new thread. instead of derailing a thread where women are asked to give an opinion about their own level of attractiveness, all of your fitness ideals can be promoted here.


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23 Jul 2012, 1:49 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
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i suppose if you like a masculine physique, she looks great. personally, i like looking somewhat softer.

girls with eating disorders are often obsessed with exercising, so that type of model isn't any more of a positive influence. her body fat looks to be lower than would be healthy for most women.

http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/10/23/too ... use-aging/


Actually fitness modelling promotes eating healthy and finding the right diet, it has no association with eating disorders. Fitness models have to learn about nutrition to a very good extent to shape their body how they need to be for certain shoots whereas fashion models are more likely to starve themselves.

Thoughts about that article: This is simply an excuse for people to miss out on training, simply an excuse for people to tell themselves doing good. Does this Sesame woman even have any type of doctorate or formal credential to back up her words?

you have my point backwards. girls with eating disorders often also over-exercise, so looking at pictures of women who may appear to exercise excessively and/or have low body fat, is not too healthy. perhaps showing them pictures of normal people and promoting that would be helpful.


I think you are getting the forms of exercise mixed up, girls with eating disorders do High intensity cardio workouts without actually studying that it is doing more damage than good, they aren't exercising in moderation or taking into account the different types of training.

They are simply following some diet they heard about on America's Next Top Model and doing some cardio routine that has been suggested by gossiping friends.

no, you don't really know very much about eating disorders, evidently.

did you actually read the sources attached to the article? it was actual research. maybe you just glanced at the first paragraph lol


I did and I am asking you, does this Sesame have a doctorate? And I hardly think trusting something on an internet article can be proven without actual studies because there is also a black and white or right and wrong on the internet, people can be biased and impersonal in their perspectives.

I have a complete understanding of what goes into it and an eating disorder. You will find that any fitness model or anyone that is developing an interest into it has to learn about nutrition to a good extent.



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23 Jul 2012, 1:50 am

She looks great, and has the type of body I'm currently working on. It's a strong body, not a skinny waif-like runway body.
Trust me when you get older the softness needs the muscle behind it to counteract gravity, it's muscle that helps make your boobs perky and your butt higher, not everyone has to take it to that degree but that's why she's a fitness model.

But I bet she eats....maybe more then three times a day... OMG! What a b***h! LOL :wink:

I also reckon she probebly thinks she's attractive.

I do and I don't swing that way....not that there's anything wrong with that.



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23 Jul 2012, 1:51 am

the studies she cited were by actual professionals. you can read up on them.... on the article.

do you have any proof to the contrary?


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23 Jul 2012, 1:51 am

Oh bravo, hyper, you delete the argument because it doesn't suit your biased perspectives?

Edit: She actually moved it to the health and fitness board, seems a more appropriate place for the discussion.



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23 Jul 2012, 1:55 am

Here's an article from a much more well known and trusted source on health issues.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/41447 ... k-younger/



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23 Jul 2012, 2:00 am

nice one, for jumping on me unnecessarily. :lol:

http://www.truthinaging.com/beauty-360/ ... d-up-aging

competing studies.

so, aside from the science (we can both support our sides), where does that leave us? women look younger to me if the maintain some youthful fat in their cheeks. without it they tend to look older, in my opinion.


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