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17 May 2015, 9:10 pm

Those are some great images!


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18 May 2015, 3:34 am

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I'm not legal console of any kind, but I'll answer what I can.

Now on a Form 4473 (the form you fill out at an FFL (Federal Firearms License) dealer when buy a gun), it states whether you have been found mentally incompetent by a judge or if you have been involuntary admitted to a mental institution. If it was voluntary, and no judge has found you mentally incompetent, you're okay to buy a gun. But with this impending invasive healthcare reform, there could be backdoor disarmament, especially among people who have voluntarily admitted themselves to a mental hospital or at-risk military veterans. The same BS also applies for domestic violence as the 4473 asks if one has ever been convicted of a misdemeanor count of DV. It one checks yes, no gun for them! They are the same as a convicted felon, even if they had committed the crime back in 1899.

All felons are lumped together. It doesn't matter if they are a murderer or even if they have a fake car insurance card.

Now yes, some people should never get near a gun. Say someone is f'ed up to the point they want to harm themselves and others, or they've shot up a place full of innocent people, or they've committed a double rape-murder. Yes, those kinds of people should be barred from owning firearms forever.

Gun-free zones are victim-enrichment zones in my opinion. No criminal is going to a gun shop, fill out a 4473 and undergo a background check for a gun. They're going to buy them off the black market from some drug dealer in a darkened alley, or they will steal them off the law-abiding citizen. A lot of people convicted of gun violence are actually felons or people who fell through the cracks of the mental health or criminal justice systems. And if they're not concerned about obeying the law, they'll do whatever modifications they want with a firearm. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Gun control only affects the law abiding citizen, and these anti-gun politicians and gun-control proponents seem to miss that very point.

I hope this helps...


stay out of california. they count voluntary, and go door to door taking guns from those they later deemed not able to own guns anymore. mind you without a warrant so you can just deny them entrance. I think NY is doing the same.

this is what discourages people from getting help. they say its ok and it won't affect you then later change their mind and say now for doing it back then when they said it was ok, they're going to take them away. and not just yours but any guns in the house. but feel free to keep knifes. o.O
so under their thought process, you are too risky to own a gun because you might kill yourself, yet they let you keep knifes and drive cars on the road. o.O, because no one ever cuts themselves or drives into other cars to kill themselves.

but I think for now colorado is ok but who's to say any of our states in a year or more wont' pass similar laws. its illegal no, isn't anything done before it was illegal suppose to remain legal. ie you can't punish someone for doing something illegal not but was legal when the did it?



to op. eotech eh?
I like the reticle, but from what I understand the aimpoints and acogs are far more reliable.
plus the 8 year battery life on aimpoints while always on is nice.

I'm not as accurate as my friends, but I would pass a test to be a cop likely. as I get all my hits in the target :P
I seemed to go left a bit if I remember, with my 9mm. but its a cz, 9mm, vrs I hit in the center with my glock .40.
so could be different rounds or maybe the grips of the guns? still hit mostly centeredish and still on target so good enough for defence lol

I don't practice using pistols past 7 yards but one of my friends does. I just follow the pistols are to use to get to your rifle mindset i guess :P

still handguns are fun to shoot, bit more so than rifles for me. though I enjoy bolt actions better than simi, I guess I like being more involved with the mechanics. yet I have even of both. and when i get a tar 21 and ak/cz58 I'll have more o.O whats wrong with me.



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18 May 2015, 9:14 am

sly279 wrote:
...I think for now colorado is ok but who's to say any of our states in a year or more wont' pass similar laws....

After the spanking last year (recall elections and general-election defeats), the Colorado Democratic Party has selective memory loss about what it was trying to do the year before. :lol:


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18 May 2015, 10:44 am

Ohhh....California and New York...not very gun-friendly states. They'll come up with every excuse and law in the book in order to disenfranchise anyone of their gun rights. "Assault weapon" bans, no privately-owned NFA items, 10-round magazine limits, registration & licenses of all sorts, nearly unobtainable CCW permits, out-of-control crime rates. All in part of anti-gun politicians and elitist bigshots like Dianne Feinstein, Andrew Cuomo, and Michael Bloomberg, that people are to hypnotized to recall them, or vote them out of office. Then you got that hypocrite CA Senator Yeland Lee, who promotes gun control, but was arrested in connection to arms trafficking for campaign contributions. He won't let the citizens have certain guns, but he'll let terrorists in Southeast Asia and other organized crime syndicates have explosives and military weapons.

I'm glad I live in Ohio, where out gun rights have improved drastically this year. We have no magazine restrictions anymore, we can hunt with sound suppressors, Constitutional Carry is on the books, and refusing to enforce all federally-acted gun control laws.



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30 May 2015, 11:02 am

About a decade ago I used to play IDPA at the nearest indoor range until they closed. It was pretty fun. I used a Series 70 Colt Government Model in .45 ACP.

Now, I just plink on the property. Mostly .22LRs to keep the noise down. Though I'll fire off a group now and again of the bigger stuff to keep hunting skillz in check, as sometimes, something moves through that I can hunt.



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30 May 2015, 11:29 am

Interesting, If you want to keep noise down, you can look into the .22LR suppressor market. But they are a one-time $200 tax stamp and about 6 months of paperwork for each suppressor you own. If I had some spare money, I'd look into getting a suppressor since they are legal to own in Ohio. I have a Colt Detective Special that was issued to my dad back in the 80's when started working as a police officer (he's retired now).



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30 May 2015, 12:00 pm

Suppressors be illegal here (Oz).

I find that .22LRs from a rifle tend to be fine; Standard Velocity loads also keep the noise down with the lack of a supersonic crack. The specific quiet .22LR ammo (CCI Quiet, for example), are like a hand clap, but the POI at 100 yards is about a dozen inches lower than Standard Velocity loads, which is annoying in regards to sight adjustment; I don't use 'em for that reason (the POI of supersonic stuff isn't much different to Standards in comparison. A few inches higher).

So, I just stick to Standard Velocity stuff, as it's good to 100 yards (they group fine when the wind is down), and you can't hear them from a few hundred yards away when fired from a rifle.



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30 May 2015, 12:59 pm

So your state and/or municipality forbids suppressors. No problem. I'll try to look for .22LR rounds that sound like a pellet gun, but will also cycle in a semi-auto .22 rifle or pistol (Ruger 10/22, Marlin Model 60, Ruger Mk. III, Walther P22, etc.).

Maybe these will work: http://www.americanrifleman.org/article ... -quiet-22/

I don't shoot a lot of 22LRs. I shoot a lot of centerfire handguns, and AR-15 rifles. I heard gas blowback airsoft guns are a good cheap alternative to real alternative to firearms for training or plinking. Here's a high-end Taiwanese airsoft gun based off of a Ruger 10/22: http://www.evike.com/products/33834/

These use 6mm plastic, low-velocity BBs. (Some of the rare Japanese-made models use 8mm BBs)



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31 May 2015, 2:20 am

As long as I use a rifle, .22LRs are fine. Even hypervelocity stuff like CCI Stingers or Rem. Yellowjackets aren't obnoxious to the neighbors; they'll hear them if outside, but it won't be annoying. Since those two are my small game ammo, I fire off a group now and again.

The CCI Quiets you mentioned are indeed very quiet (I've used some), but their point of impact is too far from most practical .22LR loads, so it's too much of a hassle to adjust sights when shooting at 100 yards.

I used to shoot 12 gauge and 6.5x52mm/.303 Brit. a bit until neighbors started to indirectly complain. Didn't figure living on land where the blocks are 40 acres, would make people bothered, which is why I used to do it often. Haven't had anyone complain with subsonic .22LRs yet (and I've shot a lot), so that's good.

If I lived near a range, I'd probably get into 1000 yard matches.



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09 Jul 2015, 11:14 pm

Here's a video I posted to YouTube of me participating in my favorite sport. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJUPARnwjK0