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No, actually it has to do with the explosive nature of the lifts themselves. THAT forces the HIGHEST potential levels of hormones, produces the most Type II muscle fibers, and gives you thick dense muscle tissue that burns serious fat day and night. besides which, do some high rep Snatches and see if your Cardio isnt pushed through the roof!

Just completed my first REAL weight lifting workout ever last night. Kind of a milestone for me.
Did 8 exercises, three sets each, 6-8 reps per set, at weights selected for failure at the end of each set.
It targetted the chest, biceps, forearms, and shoulders. Tonight, it'll be triceps, quads, lower back, and abs. It's a beginner's 2-day workout schedule I made for myself which I hope to repeat continually (without taking any total-rest days, but rather just resting each muscle group for the recommended 48 hours). I've done a lot of reading lately on weight lifting. My workout took 2 hours, 15 minutes, because I took the maximum-recommended muscle rest periods (5 min) between almost every set. I'll decrease that time as I get stronger.

Do you really? I've heard this so many times, and upon closer inspection most people who say that don't even take in 5.000 calories a day. I was a hard gainer as well and I had to eat anywhere from 9.000 to 12.000 calories a day to gain strength. Now that my metabolism has slowed I can suffice with about 5-6.000 a day.

That's my latest fat test results:


height: 163cm
age: 29

I've been attempting to go for six hours a day recently, to get back in shape after serious binging for eight of the last ten days.
I recently found that if I jack up the incline on the treadmill to 15%, I can burn 511 calories an hour at 2.3 mph, as opposed to 300-something at a flat incline at 3.5 miles an hour. I've never been able to go very fast, so this is great news.

I still plan to do 6 hours a day (gonna be so exhausted) but at this rate, I should by my calculations have walked off the calories I ate by this Sunday.

My proportions don't seem to change too much with weight loss, though when I'm at my thinnest, my rear end looks almost flat. At much higher weights, it becomes very disproportionate.

You should eventually start running, there's no reason you should have to walk 6 hours a day. You could burn that amount jogging 2-3 miles a day at 6.0mph. Then you could eat more and not worry about it.

Actually, I admit, I don't know how that would affect you with your hypothyroidism. It's hard for me to picture how someone can't burn calories to the extent that you can eat only 500 calories a day. If they don't burn, then how to you get energy for anything? I mean, you have to run on something.

6 HOURS a day?!

This is madness, and totally unnecessary.

Btw, what about this recent obsession in whey protein powders?

Gym guys keep telling me "you need protein", "drink protein" , "without protein it's futile" , "Braaaiins (ok, I invented this one)" ....

I swear they sound like protein-zombies.

Some even suggested Nitro Tech, I've googled this one and some are saying it contains steroids

As for the regular whey, some studies show it prevents some types of cancers, others show it causes other cancers, yet I can't see such over-consumption of animal protein can be healthy in the long run.

Here's a good perspective on eating healthy and protein.

Matt Danzig

It's worth to mention this is being the best technique for me so far: one day weightlifting/freelifting and one day cardio.

Mac Danzig is pretty cool.

ROFL.


If I hadn't starved away all my muscle over the years, and was eating enough regularly to build some in the meantime, maybe. I've always envied people that could run.

I'm pretty much constantly exhausted. I haven't started eating regularly, during the week, as of yet-
my plan is to get down to my pre-binge weight and then gradually up my intake to 500 and see what happens.
That's around an hour at the gym, but I'd probably do two, then, because I want to lose more.
Six hours a day is only to get off the...absurd amount of calories I ate these past two weeks.
I couldn't do that forever.
I'm paranoid about the treadmills at the gym not being at least moderately accurate about the calories being burned.
I see my endocrinologist on the 30th- I'm hoping he'll be able to discuss some options.
I'm nervous because I don't look like the picture of hypothyroidism (just like when I was obese I didn't look like someone who dieted 24/7) but I have to convey to him the extremity of what I have to do to not gain weight, without sounding like someone with a diagnosable eating disorder. I'm so hopeful he can help, and so afraid he won't.

January 12th: 114 lbs
January 22nd: 135 lbs
Don't make me post pictures.

The obsession with protein is a purely Western phenomenon, it would seem.
Most people eat double or triple the amount needed. It's pretty absurd.
I've almost stopped reading about nutritional studies showing positive or negative effects on this or that specific problem, though-
one day something causes cancer, the next it prevents it.
I dunno!

Eat some brains! http://ihatemymessageboard.com/2009/03/ ... ilk-gravy/

But uh, really, you do need protein if you wanna grow muscle and whatnot. You don't need shakes and magic stuff, but you do need to up your protein amount. The only thing the shakes do is allow you to minimize fat and carbs that generally come from actually eating protein, but they're not required. I mean we lived like....many thousands of years, without them? So yeah, the only advantage protein powder has it allows you to theoretically put on muscle without fat.

Mark Rippetoe, he recommends people drink a gallon of milk a day, and that's it. He's got lots of quotes on it. He recommends drinking a gallon of milk per training day, but I believe without any protein powder.



http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/ ... and_Cardio



So, if you got allergies to milk, as some people do, then don't drink it obviously, but it is pretty good for some people.

He's got a section for skinnies, too, you might like that.

Whey protein is digested quicker and easier, contains leucine for higher proteine synthesis and in terms of pure quality, only egg protein is better. When absorbed, whey retains more protein than any other type of protein out there.

Whey isn't absolutely necessary, but if you only buy one supplement then whey is your best bet.

My jeans are already feeling looser.
I could get used to this.

I've just read a small article saying that women live healthier lives

Not surprising and I am starting to see why: The hormones reason aside, there's clearly a social peer pressure on women to get thinner, hence why they are more likely to go for more vegetarian diets. On the other hand, there's a peer pressure on men to look more muscular, hence they're more likely to go for animal diet and protein shakes (who are mostly animal-based). Studies are showing that the vegetarian diets are the healthiest.

I have yet to meet ONE muscular guy (including the mild 'athlete' type) who doesn't consume loads of those products, they might become way stronger than women but certainly would die younger.

I've even noticed the mentality difference between female coaches and male coaches, the females think more 'heath' while instructing, while males think 'do whatever it takes to become bigger', it's very obvious to notice that.

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I feel weaker and way hungrier with a PURE vegan diet, I need at least some meat or milk. I could get by eating only fish, though. Ideally, the Asian diets look the best and most efficient, my favorite meals for just generally feeling awesome are brown rice sushi rolls. But, some meat, in moderation I guess. There's vegan powerlifters and bodybuilders, and somehow they do it, how...I don't know. The stereotype of meat eaters being stronger is basically true. If you want proof, go youtube a video of the Pakistani border ceremonies. The Pakistani side's people are like ginormous compared to the Indians.

But, you gotta decide what you want, what works for you, etc. IE, the Lewis Black story of the guy who lived to be 100+ drinking box wine and eating bread fried in fatback. Figure out what works.