Obese nutritionists

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Read this instead, http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbmainnut.htm

You'll learn more about nutrition in 30 minutes than you would from 30 sessions with that nutritionist.

It takes real discipline, determination and willpower to practice what you preach and stick to a strict diet and routine that will give you the ideal body you want. No amount of knowledge or information can make up for that.

I love the FatNutritionist. <3 Her site has helped me so much with my food and weight issues.
I mentioned her to my therapist, and she's recommended it to several of her other eating-disordered patients,
supposedly to positive outcomes.


Being obese and educated on nutrition have nothing to do with one another.
The former is a physiological height/weight ratio, the latter, a certification of educational attainment.

I would prefer someone like the FN, honestly, because they're less likely than a thin nutritionist to be caught up with weight, as opposed to health.

Last edited by ValentineWiggin on 18 Jun 2012, 1:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

True enough. But not practicing what you preach is hypocrisy. It's similar to when vegetarians drive cars with a full leather interior or when priests are atheists.

If you have the means to solve a problem, not solving it indicates a lack of will power.

How do you know a nutritionist isn't "practicing what they preach", based on nothing but their body size?
The same way you declared me too stupid to count calories a while back rather than believe different people have different metabolisms, I suppose?
If you're obsessed with the idea that everyone can "will" away weight, then I guess that makes sense.


Vegetarianism isn't a philosophy. It's a diet excluding flesh. It doesn't prescribe a lifestyle.
If you're talking about ETHICAL vegetarianism, then that would make sense.


As I said, I'd actively-prefer a nutritionist who is concerned with, ya know, NUTRITION- what I put in my body,
as opposed to what size it is.

Indeed. From what I read she doesn't claim to help people get thin, she says she'll help them to eat better and find the body's "happy size". What caught my attention personally was her post about eating more consistently, because I have a huge problem of skipping meals, which at the worst point can mean eating nothing at all for a whole day, and she seems to have experience in that matter.

If I wanted to lose weight I'd probably look for someone else. And if I wanted to gain weight, and muscle, I'd also look somewhere else, Wolfheart's link seems to fit that description, and I personally follow Stronglifts 5x5.

If she said "I'll help you lose weight", she'd be an hypocrite in my eyes. But she doesn't, so she's not

"Happy size" is your body's ideal weight. Being obese isn't a natural size for anyone.

Stronglifts 5x5 is very good, but personally, I find Reg Park's program (who is very similar) even better.

The implication being that anyone who knows how to lose weight wants to, themselves?

Sure it is. My body gravitates toward obesity, and I'm infertile if I get too far south of 150. (I'm 5'1").
I certainly feel much better and stronger physically around there than when I'm thinner.
My "happy size" is definitely upward of what's currently en vogue for women to weigh.


Repeat after me: PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT.

The implication is that although knowledge is valuable, I find experience valuable too. And if I wanted to lose weight, I wouldn't look for the one who knows, I can read a book for that, I'd look for someone who HAS lost weight, and reached the point I want to reach, and can tell me what can I expect, where could be my sticking points, and I know I can trust what that person says because they've done it themselves. If someone doesn't want to lose weight, fine. But I won't trust their advice as much.



Obese =/= overweight. I don't mind overweight people, but I mind obese people.

In 99% of all cases, obese people either eat to much or get too little activity.



The fact that your posts almost always have either accusations of the other part or straw man arguments, is a living proof that you've lost the debate. I've NEVER called you stupid, but I'd be happy to debunk any of your claims with no scientific basis.

Different people have different metabolisms, but the standard deviation is ONLY 300 calories. NOTHING can bypass the laws of thermodynamics, just like nothing can bypass Newton's laws.



Most vegetarians are so because of ethical concerns. To make a leather interior, cattle needs to be slaughtered. Killing something to make a car more comfortable is no different than killing it for food. In fact, it may even be worse, as modern day vinyl interiors are almost as good.



It's two sides of the same coin. Nobody has to be obese to get the right amount of nutrition.

Last edited by Kurgan on 18 Jun 2012, 2:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Maybe an overweight person HAS lost weight, and is at his/her "happy size".

No it's not. If you're metabolism is a little slow, it means that you need slightly less food to survive. Nobody is obese in their natural state. Likewise, a car with a good mileage rating isn't doomed to overflowing of the gas tank every time you fill gasoline, it just needs less of it.

You lose muscle mass because you don't do weight lifting and you send your body into starvation mode.

There are thee different somatotypes. Even with an endomorphic body type, it's fairly easy to remain in the ideal range.

Right, "too much", and "too little" varies vastly from person to person,
and some people aren't willing to exercise hours on end and eat next to nothing in order to not be obese-
it's certainly not healthy for them to do so-
which for me is what a nutritionist is supposed to be concerned with- health.


You didn't in so many words, but I mentioned what my daily calorie intake is, to maintain, and you declared that I must be miscounting calories. The only scientific basis I need appeal to is the fact that there is incredible variation in incredible combination, and that being overweight doesn't de facto cause health problems- it's CORRELATED with them, because both are related to the exogenous variables of NUTRITION AND EXERCISE.


What "standard deviation" do you refer to?
My boyfriend inhales in one meal what I couldn't eat in an entire day, unless I wanted to be bulging out of my jeans, and he doesn't gain weight.

Nor is someone who's obese de facto NOT "practicing what they preach".

Last edited by ValentineWiggin on 18 Jun 2012, 2:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It's a tricky topic, would you engage a personal trainer who was out of shape or a strength lifting coach who squats 20 lbs? It my view a person who is supposed to teach people how to do something, should be able to do it themselves. I'd dare to wager that most English teachers could write an essay, most math teachers know math and that most military firearms instructors know how to fire a gun.

Of course, a nutritionist, physical trainer or coach, can have the knowledge to help you, but if they are unable to live according to what they are attempting to get you to do, then how can they get you to live in accordance with it?

In bodybuilding/strength lifting, it helps to have a coach/nutritionist/trainer that has struggled with the same issues you have.

Except that being of a size-weight ratio currently considered unacceptable doesn't mean that you don't know nutrition, and it doesn't mean you don't practice a healthy lifestyle. They could be practicing an even more demanding and strict routine than the one they recommend for a client, and might be even larger than they are now if they didn't.

The idea that not being able to change one's physiology equals ignorance of nutrition is just silly.


That's why I find people like the FatNutritionist so inspiring- she helps people move past the obsession with weight and focus on being mindful of one's habits, on consistency, and focusing on balanced eating and being happy with one's self regardless of size.

This common sense approach is startlingly absent in weight-obsessed popular culture, and this alienates overweight and obese people even further.

If you want a weight-loss doc, there are plenty of those. A nutritionist by definition should be focused on nutrition.

Last edited by ValentineWiggin on 18 Jun 2012, 2:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Kurgan, when you say "obese" what do you mean? And when you hear "overweight" what do you think about it?

Aand the differences in metabolism can be quite noticeable. Bigger people will generally need more calories just to move themselves around and keep a stable temperature, and our basal metabolism can drop to half when there is a threat of starvation. People who exercise will also have a higher basal metabolism even at rest. Laws of thermodynamics still apply, but our body can change the energy it expends with things as simple as the distance of our blood capillary (or however you write that) from our skin.