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nike has just signed michael vick, the nfl star who thinks torturing animals is just swell, to a four year contract. he endorses their shoes and they pay him millions of dollars.

i had a model tell me once, "fashion is the most important thing on earth". i did not want to believe she was speaking the truth. she was.

so glad i'm not a human.

lol Nike started here in Eugene, Oregon then moved up to Beaverton....but we still get millions of dollars poured into the UO athletic program so i like Nike

perfectly human response. money counts, nothing else.

glad you think animal cruelty is so funny. what a real man you are.

"Businesses are predominant in capitalist economies, in which most of them are privately owned and administered to earn profit to increase the wealth of their owners"

join us on planet Earth, u might not be human just as you indicated in the 1st post. money LITERALLY runs the world and if they think using Michael Vick as the face for a product is going to make them profit, they will do it. a business almost by definition will do what it must to earn more profits thats the entire purpose of a business. Obviously, the Nike advertising committee or whatever thinks the American public has accepted Vick back into a favorable light otherwise they wouldnt have done it at all. Also, I think they are now spotlighting Vick because he paid his dues and actually seems to have learned something....so they are trying to portray him as somebody whos changed as opposed to just a face that is associated with animal cruelty.

after vick was sentenced for federal offenses, he went to state court to plead guilty to those animal cruelty charges. all sentences would run concurrently. he told of how he and his friends would go into neighboring towns looking for loose dogs or dogs fenced where no-one was home.

the ones they could safely pick up, they would take back to his place and when they had the fighting dogs out to train, they would throw the stolen dogs into the fighting pit to be torn apart. vick said he and his friends thought it was 'kinda funny'. anyone who thinks you can change from this sort of cruelness is not living in the real world.

as tangomike has shown us, humans like him simply do not care how despicable a person might be, the only thing that matters is how much money can he bring in.

christians tell me that 'god created man in his image'. if that's true, i will gladly go to hell to be with the 'lesser' animals. heaven with michael vick and tangomike will be one horrible place.

your entitled to your opinions, i coudlnt care less about what you people write.If you cannot believe that people can change, well i am sad for you because your just destined to think of everybody based off something they did for a period of their life. Are you going to judge some really nice and respectful 50 year old person because you found out when he/she was 20 they used to steal, deal cocaine and beat people up? I would not, i would only judge what kind of person they are in the present. again, i feel sorry for you if you would judge that person for what they did in the past. I've been involved with pen=pal programs with inmates since mid-high school, ive been writing to two men in prison for 6 years now. One of the men, this really old guy named Glen was released 2 years ago, he was locked up for armed robbery and assault and currently lives in my state. I see him maybe 4 times a year and he tells me how his life is going.....how he thinks its so easy to mug people and steal but he doesnt do it because he's really felt the guilt. hes quit drinking and drugs and works a honest 40 hr job, that is why I believe people have the power to change.

I think your missing the entire point of using Michael Vick.....you know Nike's reason for using Vick is EXACTLY because they are trying to portray him as someone who represents change and reform....they arnt saying 'oh he usedto torture dogs but we are ok with using him in advertisements because we just want to make hella money and dont give a crap about ethics." they are saying, "look at Vick, he used to be this sick cruel guy but hes changed and thats a great thing.' which is a good selling point and appeals to people. If you insist that Vick hasnt changed and its just wrong to use him because he represents animal cruelty to you....well you are missing the whole point of advertisement. Ads are about projecting an idea, a concept that is appealing to the viewers, in this case its how Vick has changed, people can change and that ppl should be given 2nd chances...and when they change for the better its a 'cool' thing. That is a positive message that appeal to viewers and this is why the marketing staff would use him in the first place. It is obvious that the masses view Vick in a positive light as indicated by Nikes decision to use him at all, so to show the accepting masses Vick back in the spotlight is putting forth a good message to everyone watching....and well if you dont agree with that one, your just an minority opinion (which of course you are entitled to) and really have no impact in the large scheme of things.


yeah and also its cool if you believe in heaven, hell or purgatory or all that feel free.....i like to base my opinions on things that have a tangible relationship with my life and operate as such. Some believers say simply having faith makes God and heaven exist.... God, heaven and hell would not exist for me because I do not place my faith in those things. My strong faith that all that is human imagination created in the past to help people cope with life and has no basis in reality....effectively makes god, heaven and hell NOT exist for me. so yeah, if you want to say i will go to some hell pit thats you IMPOSING your own beliefs on me. i have no such beliefs so when you say things like that you are saying that I WILL be judged by 'God' and consequently sent to hell...thats offensive when you tell somebody something based on your own beliefs that that person doesnt share.

If I told you your just some lonely, AS, virgin douche who likes to think they know more about ethics and morals than others to compensate for something else in his/her life.....well that would be my belief about you which is not based in reality because I know nothing about you. Its offensive to you and it would be me pushing my unfounded belief onto you....just like how you so offensively said I should go to a place which is just as unfounded as all the mean stuff i used as an example....so by saying ill go to hell I guess I can say anything about you that is not based in reality. it would be the same thing. i know this is super off topic but people who bring religious concepts into conversation about real stuff anger me. Religions are theoretical constructs by definition if they have no tangible elements, and therefore can only be properly discussed only when discussing other theoretical constructs. Simply put, you should have just said " I think Mike Vick and tangomike are bad people" . And even then that is only your opinion, nobody cares about it but you. its your right to say your opinion just like I am saying mine. nobody cares about what i say, but i do. you can care about what you say and just leave it at that, dont go telling me me and Vick will be chillin in a hellfire for eternity because thats what YOUR belief system says will happen to us.

oh yeah and I believe in capitalism fully because at least for my lifetime I see it as the best way to climb my way up the ladder of success and increased quality of life...in addition to sparking human creativity and passion. I see capitalism as Darwinism within the human population. the strong and smart prosper, the lazy and weak do not and some people are unlucky and given subpar starting points due to financial status, their race, their sexuality ....whatever..... its up to those people to work harder than their luckier counterparts to be more successful. My father grew up in low in come housing/ small house w/ an alcoholic father who didnt finish the 5th grade. My dad was poor as dirt, he isnt white and was not naturally gifted in much except perseverance. I couldnt think of a lower starting point other than if my grandfather beat him or sexually abused him. even with all that standin in his way he still studied hard, got a scholarship to college and grad school, obtained a PHD and now makesa 6 figure income. so pretty much nobody has an excuse to b***h if they are poor or unsucesfull. if you want it, you can get it.

finally, you've got something correct.....i am a virgin.

oh, mr. mike........your means possession, you were struggling for 'you are' . how did you use your college time? worshipping football players maybe?

I despise such corporations and the methods they use to turn a profit - simple.

In Aussie and NZ there is a vernacular term 'pike' as in to 'pike out' [throw in the towel, give up, not even bother...]

A decade or so ago there were some cool t-shirts available in Melbourne with a mirrored nike tick and the word 'pike' in nike brand style type with the slogan 'don't do it' - I liked and laughed

peace j

I live in the area around Philadelphia, and if you saw his press conferences and such, you would realize Vick is not sorry for anything he did. He only apologized because he got caught. It must be nice the facade is working and they accept him going through the motions.

I've always been perpetually amused by the imaginary piety of these HATEFUL, HATEFUL people that think just because they have HATRED for someone that tortured dogs, that means they are so much different. In fact, these are the people that think that if they hate Michael Vick, that means they are the opposite of Michael Vick, a.k.a. Our Lord And Savior Jesus Christ. How can you claim to be an ethical saint when you don't even have enough love in your heart for forgiveness? And before you say Michael Vick has no remorse, if Michael Vick had no remorse, he wouldn't have been able to come back from prison after 2 years and play at the level that he did. Someone with no remorse for their actions would either be benched for bad play or otherwise have a bad performance on the field. Jamal Lewis is a good example of this. After a 2,000 yard season, he went to jail for 2 years for a cocaine deal back in 2000, and then came out and played like a shadow of his former self. If he had remorse, he would be able to put it behind him and play at a high level again. He never regained his old form. It's one thing to come back and resume the same level of play, it's quite another to come back after being dragged through the mud by the press and the rabid dogs we call fans (the irony!) and take his game to a higher level than ever before.

Yeah.

When murderers and rapists of people are used to sell products,
I'll believe the whole "turned over a new leaf" bullsh!t, Mike.

Til then, it's a convicted animal torturer being selectively-chosen by a mega corporation for his fame in order to sell products to a society indifferent to the horror of his actions.