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14 May 2015, 5:14 pm

My favorite sport of all is sport shooting. I do use real guns when at the range. I am pro-gun rights, and I shoot firearms for fun, not to make myself look intimidating or macho. I have Asperger's and I am mentally sound.

I got into shooting at 17 after my house was ransacked and robbed few years prior. For four years, I have fired several pistols, revolvers, a few shotguns, AR-15 rifles, and one full-auto submachine gun. My parents were nervous about me shooting at first since I was an impressionable child. Now, we respect each other's stances on guns in my household. I am a very good shot after a few sessions of practice.

I like shooting because it teaches me respect, responsibility, discipline. I have have impeccable muzzle and trigger discipline, meaning I religiously obey all gun safety rules and procedures when handling or shooting guns. I was nervous to shoot at first because of negative media stereotypes about guns and gun owners. But I adjusted, and learned to become comfortable with firearms and to be safe on the range.

I've never been in a shooting competition before, but I will look into doing so in the future.

The rules of gun safety:
1. All guns are assumed to be loaded at all times.
2. Hearing protection and eye protection is mandatory.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your target is in your sight and you're ready to fire.
4. Don't point or shoot at anyone and/or anything you do not intend to shoot.
5. Be sure of what is your target, what's around your target, and what's behind your target.
6. If your gun does not feel, look or sound right, stop and assess the problem.

I enjoy shooting targets whenever I get the chance to, and I will respect my rights, and try my best to not screw them up. I could give a whole tangent on this topic, but I don't feel the need to rant. I also understand that other countries do not have the same gun rights at the United States.

Please be respectful, and keep politics and religion out of your responses or when asking questions since this is not a debate.



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14 May 2015, 5:18 pm

It seems that you are a great, safe, ambassador for the Second Amendment! Thank you for your message. 8)

I own a SIG Sauer P229 and a SIG Sauer M400.


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15 May 2015, 3:02 am

Jealous, I wanted a sig m400 but shop couldn't' get it so got bushmaster instead. how has it been?

sig handguns are too expensive for my blood. 500 is my max with except for a glock due to coming with 3 mags, well you pay for the 3rd in the price.



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15 May 2015, 8:02 am

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Jealous, I wanted a sig m400 but shop couldn't' get it so got bushmaster instead. how has it been?

sig handguns are too expensive for my blood. 500 is my max with except for a glock due to coming with 3 mags, well you pay for the 3rd in the price.

I have to admit, the M400 is nice. Years ago, after I took my Utah Concealed Firearm Permit class, I decided to attend an indoor range every month where I could "rent" any of their used inventory. So, I tried out Brownings, Glocks, Berettas, Springfields, S&Ws and, while I really liked the feel of the XD series, I decided to buy the SIG Sauer P229 in .357-sig simply because that is what Mulder and Scully used (hey, you gotta have at least one reason to tip the decision one way or another!). And, it seemed very well made. After all, most LEAs in the world use it.

It is the little bells and whistles that SIG Sauer includes that I like. Bushmaster would have been my second choice if I couldn't afford the M400. But, last June, SIG had a rebate sale on the M400, sooo ... I got one. :D

I believe strongly that it isn't the tool, it is the hand that uses the tool.


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15 May 2015, 9:33 am

I own a Colt Detective Special .38 revolver made in 1975. It was my dad's when he first became a police officer in 1981, but the department switched over to Glocks after they were being outgunned by thugs. My dad's now retired, and my grandfather then gave me the revolver for my 21st birthday. So far, I've shot 7 cylinders out of it.

I either go out shooting at the range, or on private property owned by a friend of mine. I've shoot quite few Sig Sauers, Glocks, 1911's, Smith & Wesson M&P, Ruger handguns, and a .44 Magnum Desert Eagle. All good guns I must say. For shotguns, I've shot a Mossberg 500 and a Mossberg 930. For rifles, I've shot AR-15's, an SKS, an AK-74, and a Marlin Model 60. My machine gun rental consisted of a H&K UMP 40, and it was a one-in-a-lifetime experience. Too bad none can be made for civilians since they were made after the '86 full-auto ban.

I'd like to start on an AR-15 build and an AK-47 build once I have spare cash. I want at least a few pistols, one revolver, a pump shotgun, an AR-15, an AK-47, a semi-auto .22LR rifle, a semi-auto belt-fed M60, and a precision bolt-action rifle one day.



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15 May 2015, 11:55 am

Shooting was and is the only sport at which I can excel, and I much enjoy the rare occasions I get to shoot.

In sports, I am worse at those requiring me to interact with a moving object (e.g. a thrown ball), doing better with smacking a stationary one (e.g. billiards). Also, the less full body coordination required the better I do. (I suck at bowling.). So shooting is perfect for me.

Maybe it is part of my Aspie nature, but I also enjoy following a dogmatic adherence to safety rituals.



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15 May 2015, 4:23 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
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Jealous, I wanted a sig m400 but shop couldn't' get it so got bushmaster instead. how has it been?

sig handguns are too expensive for my blood. 500 is my max with except for a glock due to coming with 3 mags, well you pay for the 3rd in the price.

I have to admit, the M400 is nice. Years ago, after I took my Utah Concealed Firearm Permit class, I decided to attend an indoor range every month where I could "rent" any of their used inventory. So, I tried out Brownings, Glocks, Berettas, Springfields, S&Ws and, while I really liked the feel of the XD series, I decided to buy the SIG Sauer P229 in .357-sig simply because that is what Mulder and Scully used (hey, you gotta have at least one reason to tip the decision one way or another!). And, it seemed very well made. After all, most LEAs in the world use it.

It is the little bells and whistles that SIG Sauer includes that I like. Bushmaster would have been my second choice if I couldn't afford the M400. But, last June, SIG had a rebate sale on the M400, sooo ... I got one. :D

I believe strongly that it isn't the tool, it is the hand that uses the tool.


he also used a glock :P
well glock says most use glocks. i know most in the us use glocks, not sure about any manufactures claim to majority use besides the ak47. assuming lea is law enforcement agency. mounties use czs I think. personally I can't afford .357 sig nor is it readily available. I went with .40 but now planning to go 9mm. if it was available I'd probably go .357 glock then put a 9mm or .40 barrel in it to practic then carry the .357 sig.

well when it came out which is when I bought mine the bushmaster and m400 were the same price. I wanted the 1:7 barrel and the sling mounts on the receiver. but oh well. bushmasters's been good gun and I mostly shoot 55 snf 62 grain anyways.

I enjoy cleaning 1-3 of them at the 4 and up of cleaning guns I just get bored. but until then its relaxing and fun. but I partly like guns due to being mechanical, so stripping them down is fun.
for this reason I try to only shoot 3 of them each time, but when I take a new person out i usually shoot them all, so they can get to experience a wide amount of guns.

I shot a 44 mag desert eagle once. when it wasn't jamming it was fun lol
so was a ak47 pistol, it didn't jam, nor was it hard to shoot without a stock.
45 colt was fun to shoot. I can't afford it though but a friend brought out his revolvers and stuff to let us shoot.



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15 May 2015, 6:38 pm

I cannot say I have ever been to an actual range...but I have shot targets with a real gun, though it was only a 22 rifle of my cousins. But yeah I was staying with some family out in Minnesota kinda back woodsy area, the family has a big chunk of property...and one day some of my cousins set up some make-shift targets to shoot and then wanted me to try. So I did, was able to hit some though seems like I had to close an eye to really see the target well enough to get it.

So I know I can somewhat aim and shoot....don't know with some of the mental health laws and crap if I could legally own a gun. But yes a gun is a tool...it is people that can mis-use them or use them to harm others so I am not opposed to the right to bear arms. I even wrote a whole essay on why 'gun free' zones aren't necessarily a great idea....easy targets for anyone with a gun that has mass murder on their mind. Maybe that a** who shot the kid at my school would have re-thought it if there was the off chance someone may have been armed.


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15 May 2015, 6:42 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
I cannot say I have ever been to an actual range...but I have shot targets with a real gun, though it was only a 22 rifle of my cousins. But yeah I was staying with some family out in Minnesota kinda back woodsy area, the family has a big chunk of property...and one day some of my cousins set up some make-shift targets to shoot and then wanted me to try. So I did, was able to hit some though seems like I had to close an eye to really see the target well enough to get it.

So I know I can somewhat aim and shoot....don't know with some of the mental health laws and crap if I could legally own a gun. But yes a gun is a tool...it is people that can mis-use them or use them to harm others so I am not opposed to the right to bear arms. I even wrote a whole essay on why 'gun free' zones aren't necessarily a great idea....easy targets for anyone with a gun that has mass murder on their mind. Maybe that a** who shot the kid at my school would have re-thought it if there was the off chance someone may have been armed.

So you shot down Monsieur Papier-mâché?!? That's okay. He takes it all in stride and comes back strong every time. :)

I suspect that the firearm laws in Colorado are a lot like Utah in that we restrict Second Amendment rights only if and when an individual has: 1) committed one or more crimes which exempt the individual, or 2) been adjudicated by a court that the individual is a danger to self or others.


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15 May 2015, 7:15 pm

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I cannot say I have ever been to an actual range...but I have shot targets with a real gun, though it was only a 22 rifle of my cousins. But yeah I was staying with some family out in Minnesota kinda back woodsy area, the family has a big chunk of property...and one day some of my cousins set up some make-shift targets to shoot and then wanted me to try. So I did, was able to hit some though seems like I had to close an eye to really see the target well enough to get it.

So I know I can somewhat aim and shoot....don't know with some of the mental health laws and crap if I could legally own a gun. But yes a gun is a tool...it is people that can mis-use them or use them to harm others so I am not opposed to the right to bear arms. I even wrote a whole essay on why 'gun free' zones aren't necessarily a great idea....easy targets for anyone with a gun that has mass murder on their mind. Maybe that a** who shot the kid at my school would have re-thought it if there was the off chance someone may have been armed.

So you shot down Monsieur Papier-mâché?!? That's okay. He takes it all in stride and comes back strong every time. :)

I suspect that the firearm laws in Colorado are a lot like Utah in that we restrict Second Amendment rights only if and when an individual has: 1) committed one or more crimes which exempt the individual, or 2) been adjudicated by a court that the individual is a danger to self or others.


Well actually more like random junk....old chipped plates, empty soup cans, christmas lights that didn't work and what ever other random stuff we found. There are plenty of broken cars and junk like that on the property there and who knows what else though the forest has probably reclaimed a lot of it or is in the process.

Also if the laws are such in Colorado perhaps it wouldn't be illegal....as I have never had a court deem me a danger to myself or anyone...but have been hospitalized(voluntarily) when I was feeling suicidal in the past so not sure if that would have an effect even if I am not now.


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15 May 2015, 8:09 pm

I'm not legal console of any kind, but I'll answer what I can.

Now on a Form 4473 (the form you fill out at an FFL (Federal Firearms License) dealer when buy a gun), it states whether you have been found mentally incompetent by a judge or if you have been involuntary admitted to a mental institution. If it was voluntary, and no judge has found you mentally incompetent, you're okay to buy a gun. But with this impending invasive healthcare reform, there could be backdoor disarmament, especially among people who have voluntarily admitted themselves to a mental hospital or at-risk military veterans. The same BS also applies for domestic violence as the 4473 asks if one has ever been convicted of a misdemeanor count of DV. It one checks yes, no gun for them! They are the same as a convicted felon, even if they had committed the crime back in 1899.

All felons are lumped together. It doesn't matter if they are a murderer or even if they have a fake car insurance card.

Now yes, some people should never get near a gun. Say someone is f'ed up to the point they want to harm themselves and others, or they've shot up a place full of innocent people, or they've committed a double rape-murder. Yes, those kinds of people should be barred from owning firearms forever.

Gun-free zones are victim-enrichment zones in my opinion. No criminal is going to a gun shop, fill out a 4473 and undergo a background check for a gun. They're going to buy them off the black market from some drug dealer in a darkened alley, or they will steal them off the law-abiding citizen. A lot of people convicted of gun violence are actually felons or people who fell through the cracks of the mental health or criminal justice systems. And if they're not concerned about obeying the law, they'll do whatever modifications they want with a firearm. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Gun control only affects the law abiding citizen, and these anti-gun politicians and gun-control proponents seem to miss that very point.

I hope this helps...



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15 May 2015, 8:31 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
...if the laws are such in Colorado perhaps it wouldn't be illegal....as I have never had a court deem me a danger to myself or anyone...but have been hospitalized(voluntarily) when I was feeling suicidal in the past so not sure if that would have an effect even if I am not now.

Not knowing more about you, it appears that, under federal laws ( http://smartgunlaws.org/federal-law-on- ... -generally ), you wouldn't be prohibited in owning, possessing or using a firearm. It also appears that, under Colorado laws, you wouldn't be prohibited ( http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retr ... 312f4195ef ). But, under other Colorado laws ( http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retr ... 4e8d21b718 ), relevant medical records or medical information might be shared with the Colorado NICS (background check system) apparently without a court order, but under the previously described state laws, can't be used to restrict your firearm rights.

So, I would say that you are safe to assume that you may own, possess and use a firearm unless you have committed certain crimes or acted in other ways which state and federal laws use to restrict such ownership, possession or use. If you would like to know for certain, you may contact the Colorado State Patrol Department of Public Safety ( https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/csp/colorado-gun-laws ) and ask anonymously. Be specific about your questions, but vague about yourself.

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16 May 2015, 3:01 am

Shooting is fun and very safe as long as you follow the rules that SariaFan931 outlined. The only dangerous part is when you're in your car driving to the range.


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16 May 2015, 3:34 am

I used to shoot clays at an after school club, I surprised myself because I thought I'd be terrible at it (can't throw straight) but I was actually quite good.

The noise wasn't as bad as I thought either, with ear defenders and knowing exactly when people were going to shoot it didn't stress me out too much (plus it's always nice to find a sport I don't suck at, makes you wan't to tolerate sensory BS a bit more).



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16 May 2015, 7:43 am

alex wrote:
Shooting is fun and very safe as long as you follow the rules that SariaFan931 outlined. The only dangerous part is when you're in your car driving to the range.

Hehe. True! I like your new avatar, Alex. 8)


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17 May 2015, 8:52 pm

For those wondering about my marksmanship skills, here's me holding a Doublestar AR-15 when I was 18 years old. Now this target was shot at using a Colt AR-15 and American Eagle 5.56mm x 45mm, 55-grain M193 ammunition. I only have one target since I shot a clamp holding my second target in place on a overhead target range system. Since the range was "hot" or active, I could not retrieve it without getting shot at or disciplined by the range staff for violating basic safety rules. Remember, the AR-15 is a semiautomatic rifle, NOT an "assault rifle" or an "assault weapon." It does not have the full-auto capability to meet the definition of such a derogatory term.

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I'm really good with shooting pistols and revolvers, including my Colt Detective Special. I've shot almost everything from a Ruger .22 Mk. II, to Glock's, Sig Sauer's, a FN .45 pistol, to a .45 1911, a few revolvers and up to a Ruger Blackhawk and an IWI Desert Eagle, both in .44 Magnum. I don't have any pictures of my handgun targets just yet. I'm also good with a pump shotgun (Mossberg 500), but I can't hit a flying sporting clay for jack squat.

Speaking of a full-auto, I got the opportunity to shot a machine gun at a range I go to with my dad and grandfather. It was a Heckler & Koch UMP 40 submachine gun, owned by the range. Now, transferable machine guns must be made and put into the NFA (National Firearms Act) registry before the 5/19/1986 ban on newly manufactured MG's for civilians, for it to be available for a civilian to purchase it. Machine guns are immensely regulated and require a $200 tax, paperwork, about a 4-12 month background check, and must be legal in your state of residence. However, supply and demand on the transferable machine guns make them cost thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. But Class III FFL gun stores like Ready Line (in Newtown, OH, USA) can have dealer samples for demonstration purposes and/or law enforcement sales. They can sell transferable machine guns to any civilian who has a big enough piggy-bank to buy one, as well as other NFA-regulated items that were not affected by the misleadingly-named Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986. Anyway, the UMP was very controllable, had little recoil, and had a 2-round burst mode. I hit my target about 45-6 times from two 30-round magazines with a mix of semiautomatic, 2-round burst, and various bursts on full-auto.

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