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21 Jun 2025, 8:51 pm

there's points in time i remember that Schizophrenia (which i have, it and bipolar disorder. but not ADHD) is a developmental disorder like how Autism and ADHD are and it really makes me wonder if it passively effects every aspect of my life like Autism clearly does. i genuinely think it might...

i've always butted heads with people generally whether autistic or not but it really just gets to me whenever i get on the bad side of someone else who's autistic, i could never formulate why it happens so much other than schizo stuff being tied in (typically i am the only schizophrenic in the room wherever i go)

does anyone else potentially who has schizophrenia like understand what i mean by all this? i feel kinda crazy thinking about it sometimes but i think i'm genuinely onto something maybe



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27 Jun 2025, 8:39 am

Classic autism still a unofficial sub type since I've noticed when you combine 2 studies on ASD brains. 5HT2 Is hyperactive & NMDA Is hypoactive which what the disso drug DXM does at 200 ~ 600mg as It a SNRI + NMDA antagonist. Schizopherina seems to be D2 hyperactivity + NMDA hypoactivity.

I makes me wonder If serotonin Is so abundant the baby brain favours It because the dopamine receptors/Neurons are too immature?. Their growning proof that the cause Is from a baby brain having It NMDA receptors/Neurons attacked by the immune system mutating It into a inhibtory complex.



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05 Jul 2025, 5:38 am

Hey.

Like you, I have ASD and either schizoaffective disorder or schizophrenia (since apparently, schizoaffective disorder has been dropped from the DSM-5 and therefore officially no longer exists :roll: ).

The bad news is that schizophrenia IS associated with difficulty maintaining positive relationships, as far as I'm aware. Yes, along with the more commonly-known symptoms of psychosis and possibly mood disorder. (And of course, the autism can compound this.) Fun and games.

My experience bears this out: I remember stewing in unkind thoughts about my friends which, in hindsight, they probably didn't deserve. Some of these thoughts I acted on and some I didn't (which I'm thankful for). Suffice it to say, I could have lost friends over these thoughts. Or perhaps I actually did...

I'm now on some antipsychotics and I stick closely to taking them. Why? I could be wrong, but since being put on them, I don't stew as much about my friends (or other issues, I should add). I also now look back on my previous negative thoughts and I wonder if they were justified. Who knows?

(Playing devil's advocate on a related issue, not all autistic people are going to get along, just as not all NTs get along :) but you probably know that. And out of curiosity, how do you know if there are other schizophrenic people in the room? I'm curious to know how you can be so sure.)

Hope this helps.


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05 Jul 2025, 5:45 am

I remember talking to schizophrenics at work. They needed help and folks would refer them to someone else. Who would then refer them to someone else. Where I worked they usually ended talking to me at some point.



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05 Jul 2025, 6:11 am

I think the reason why schizophrenia is not classed as a developmental disorder, is because a person can develop schizophrenia after the usual period of 'growing up'.

A person with schizophrenia might develop it in their twenties or thirties and therefore, that would be unrelated to traditional trajectories of development.

ASD on the other hand is there from birth in most cases and a person develops/grows up with that through their childhood and adolscent years, hence it being labelled a developmental disorder.



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11 Jul 2025, 9:35 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
I think the reason why schizophrenia is not classed as a developmental disorder, is because a person can develop schizophrenia after the usual period of 'growing up'.

A person with schizophrenia might develop it in their twenties or thirties and therefore, that would be unrelated to traditional trajectories of development.

ASD on the other hand is there from birth in most cases and a person develops/grows up with that through their childhood and adolscent years, hence it being labelled a developmental disorder.


Schizophrenia Is from D2 hyperactivity when NMDA becomes inhibitory. Classic Autism raises questions that 5HT2 hyperactivity Is picked because It the only mature receptor/neuron in a baby brain that can offest NMDA mutated state.