Lithium

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Yes, regular bloodwork is very important while taking lithium, because there is such a narrow therapeutic dose. Just a smidge too low won't give mood stabilization, and if it gets too high, you can suffer from lithium toxicity. Very important to have your doctor closely monitor your levels every now and then.

I also want to try lithium. In a fiew days I'll start with it, but just in low dosages.
By the way: does anyone know how this works with the dosage and so on?

Since maybe 6 weeks I'm taking melatonin at night and rhodiola rosea and tyrosine in the morning.
My mood is a lot more stabaliced, but still not okay.
The last time my therapist toled me that I look happy, but my mood was mixed. But still, she seemed to be astonished about my moodchanges.

Like all medications, the dosage depends on your individual biochemistry first and foremost- how much YOU need or don't need. In general, though, lithium dosage is judged much more by blood serum levels than most "modern" medications. Typical dosages for mood stabilization are anywhere between 0.4 and 1.2 mEq. 0.8 is usually the most common dose used for maintenance treatment. During acute manic states requiring hospitalization, the dosage is, of course, much higher than is needed for daily mood stabilization. And recent research suggests that maintenance treatment greater than or equal to 0.8 helps keep mania away and dosages may need to be lower than 0.8 to keep depression away. It's really all a balancing act incorporating your individual biochemistry and what mood symptom(s) you are experiencing. Too high of a dose can lead to lithium toxicity; too low of a dose doesn't give effective mood stabilization. Also, for the most part, lithium carbonate capsules are taken more than once a day. Typically, you take a dose 2-3 times throughout the day. A common dose in mg is taking a 300 mg dose 3 times a day for a total of 900 mg.

Does anyone know if lithium orotate actually helps and if it's an alternative to lithium carbonate?

I heard they are using lithum in the water to control the population and make them passive zombies that can't get angry it's used as a anti psychotic, That's only what i read wouldn't surprise me if the government is it makes a lot of sense when you see it for what it is.

Another conspiracy theory is that they started putting fluor in the tap water to make people less aggressive/passive... Just saying, "the government" is a scary monster.

People still seem able to get angry.

With an antipsychotic I felt TOTALLY anxious, with another one like a zombie
BUT with Lithium just more stable, it didn't change my feelings.

Lithium didn't help keep Kurt Cobain stable

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Nice song, I didn't know it before.

I couln't understand it really what he was singing, so I had to read the lyrics.

Well, there is not even one single Mood stabilizer or antidepressent that works for all depressive and/or bipolar people.
So far I know work even good ones just work for max. 70% of the people with those conditions.

The song could also refer to the fact, that a lot of people with bipolar disorder still feel their mood swings underneath, but they are a lot more stable.
Or it could also refer to the time before lithium.
So far I know noone knows for sure.

I just started with lithium. I have the same thing, at least in the beginning.
I still feel my depressions kind of underneath, but they are not near that terrible anymore and I can function close to normal again.

So I wouldn't want to life without it.
I like most that lithium doesn't feel, like it changes my emotions and my very "me" like antipsychotics do. It actually feels very natural, just more stable. For me lithium is the first drug that actually works. Not one single AD really worked for me and they had huge side effects, that was very frustrating for me, with antipsychotics I had the same thing.
But that's different for everyone.

I'm glad lithium's working for you Raziel. I didn't notice it affecting me negatively like antipsychotics did & I think my depression may of been a tad better & my moods were a little more stable on it; my dose was slightly low thou. My main problems with it besides having to get the bloodwork done(I have small veins so I sometimes got poked a few times for one test ) was feeling tired physically & mentally, worn-out, weakish & kind of out of it more. I was on other meds at the time thou, antidepressant, antipsychotic, & a benzo was added so those worse side-effects may of been the lithium interacting with the other meds. If your not having psychotic symptoms & you don't have problems staying on a consistent schedule with taking meds & go to the doc regularly; I think lithium would be a much better starting try than anitpsychotics.

I read Japan was the test model for the experiment, I don't know if they get angry behind closed doors but they seem like a really civil society compared to say the sengoku era fighting for domination of power,land,sex slave,slaves through submission anything to gain to indulge in, you know the spoils of war that is like a blip in time >_> And that was supposably happening world wide but i think the historians could have had a dick waving contest hahaha and exaggerated about a lot to compete if who's the most powerful they are all only human

Another conspiracy theory is that they started putting fluor in the tap water to make people less aggressive/passive... Just saying, "the government" is a scary monster. [/quote]

I read that in german and russian documents i translated into english that in the concentration camps they would mix sodium fluoride in with their drinking water to make them less aggressive and easy to deal with but i was thinking yeah so would starving them to death that is going to make them really passive right, I read that years ago i still got a reverse osmosis system because i don't trust anyone

If i was in charge of a small society i would have two sets of water one that is clean to wash ect and one thats for drinking and that will be full of vitamins,minerals and when it party time it's spiked with mdma