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03 Oct 2012, 5:04 am

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I am also forced to be isolated and people dont want to hang around me because of my selective muteness and shyness.
Will i eventually end up insane???


Hello namaste,

I hope that you don't but... be careful.
If you are that shy and mute, it's certainly a difficult thing to live with.

May I ask how you met your husband?
... I mean: you have to have meet him somewhere under certain circomstances.
Can't you do that a little with other people too (not falling in love everytime of course but just enough to not feel so isolated)?



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03 Oct 2012, 5:10 am

namaste wrote:
There is history of insanity in my family.
Both my parents have mental health issues.

Rejection causes more problems then loneliness
I dont feel bored or alone when lonely
Infact i feel extremely bad, rejected and depressed when
in a crowded place i am rejected and isolated
and people avoid me
For eg. wedding, social do's or office.

You are right rejection is far worse then loneliness....
So i avoid socialisation and office gatherings.
Just to keep my sanity.


I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried to make some friends online then meet with them in reality? You should search some folks that have the same thinking as yours and understand you. I know it's hard to find, but you must struggle to receive some 'feedback' - it is good for your health - not necessary to have some friends.
I think everyone needs some appreciation from time to time.



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03 Oct 2012, 5:58 am

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Isolation does sometimes leads to insanity.
Prisoner in isolation cell for prolonged period of time, for example.
But that is not your case.

It is all up to you, how you will behave.

since my parents have mental issues probably i will behave like them


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03 Oct 2012, 6:02 am

zena4 wrote:
May I ask how you met your husband?
... I mean: you have to have meet him somewhere under certain circomstances.
Can't you do that a little with other people too (not falling in love everytime of course but just enough to not feel so isolated)?


I had a arranged marriage.
Here in india its common
There was a deal struck of dowry between my inlaws and my parents
finally dowry was exchanged and i was married off to him.

the consequence of friendship is always pathetic for me so i avoid it completely


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03 Oct 2012, 6:03 am

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I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried to make some friends online then meet with them in reality? You should search some folks that have the same thinking as yours and understand you. I know it's hard to find, but you must struggle to receive some 'feedback' - it is good for your health - not necessary to have some friends.
I think everyone needs some appreciation from time to time.

tried online friendships doesnt work out for me.
they just use me and take away money or things
and never return them back or keep in touch.


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03 Oct 2012, 5:52 pm

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Without education our behaviour wouldn't be very different than that of animals. Period (lol, such arrogance)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STn3bpTTU6c


Even if we behave like other animals (remember, scientifically, we're animals, too), we're still humans.

And I don't appreciate being called arrogant.

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I wouldn't be too sure about that.

Like the one guy who I never got along with as kids told me that one day when I didn't expect it, he would walk up behind me and blow my brains out. I worried about that for years because I knew that he really met it, but ever since he died of a heart attack, I haven't worried about it at all.

Of course, from another point of view, he may have been human. It might be the people who are compassionate and kind to others who are the ones who aren't so human.


He was human. So are people who are kind to others.

You have to realize that humans have more complex brains than usual, and so we have more complex experiences. Both of these (complex brains, and complex experiences) are the only things separating us from animals.

It's very rare (but possible) that babies are born and then survive without any brain whatsoever, and I totally support hospice care in that case.


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03 Oct 2012, 6:49 pm

I certainly think that it can. When I lived in my basement apartment after I quit my job I didn't go outside a lot and I swear, I was slowly going insane. I shook whenever I had to leave my apartment.



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03 Oct 2012, 6:58 pm

namaste wrote:
Does acute isolation lead to insanity?
I was reading about criminal psychology and realised that many of them were loners, isolated and ended up becoming frustrated and criminal.

I am also forced to be isolated and people dont want to hang around me because of my selective muteness and shyness.
Will i eventually end up insane???


I think really it's a factor of mental health and ability to cope. Yes the environment plays a big role in a persons mental and emotional being but biological factors play a role as well. If you have been a stable and well rounded person I wouldn't worry to much. I mean I've had my 'episodes' but I'm not worried about becoming a criminal because I know I would never take it that far. My fear of losing what freedom I have prevents that. In other words I am terrified of prison.


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@Namaste - you have a husband and a child (nearly five by now?) so I don't think loneliness applies here.


Just because there is a husband and child doesn't mean that there cannot be loneliness. What if the marriage is loveless? What if it is simply out of convenience or they just stay for the sake of the child? And then there is the factor of depression which loneliness could be a symptom of and not even the prescense of a child could cure that.



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03 Oct 2012, 8:34 pm

From 2008-2010 i was in the house and didnt leave it at all.
I remember getting sleep paralysis attacks and could see entities in my room.
Also i got totally obsessed with occult, buying and reading occult books
and using ouija boards and somewhere during that period i had actually gone insane...
to a large extend..



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03 Oct 2012, 8:40 pm

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Just because there is a husband and child doesn't mean that there cannot be loneliness. What if the marriage is loveless? What if it is simply out of convenience or they just stay for the sake of the child? And then there is the factor of depression which loneliness could be a symptom of and not even the prescense of a child could cure that.

my husband and i rarely speak. THere is always arguments because of his spending habits..
also he has spoiled and pampered our child
the child as become argumentative and backanswering
It becomes quite difficult for me to cope up with such a child.
Also he is not worldly wise he keeps on doing foolish things
which ends us up in more problems....because of all this reasons the husband wife relationship is not on cordial level
its more on frustrating level.......most of the times i feel suicidal or i feel like packing my bags and walking out.
But i cant because i am not financially strong, i dont have parental support and plus all this aspieness.
My husband leaves early to work he comes back at night and just gets glued to the TV on weekends the same case.
Its beer, cigarrates and TV.
he doesnt go out neither takes me out.


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03 Oct 2012, 8:44 pm

namaste wrote:
From 2008-2010 i was in the house and didnt leave it at all.
I remember getting sleep paralysis attacks and could see entities in my room.
Also i got totally obsessed with occult, buying and reading occult books
and using ouija boards and somewhere during that period i had actually gone insane...
to a large extend..


For whatever it's worth, I think the occult is sometimes a coping mechanism. I know it has been for me -- I get obsessed with recording my dreams when I'm going through particular difficult times of loneliness. But "occult" to me is not something bad, it's more like a hobby that helps me get by the tough times.

I read a lot of the comments above and have to say I absolutely hate being alone and by myself, and yet I apparently keep doing the wrong things socially to guarantee that will continue on indefinitely. The worse thing are my nightmares where I feel so trapped in my loneliness that I truly feel like I'm on the verge of going insane. Then I wake up and the "defenses" (whatever they are) go up and I feel OK again, although still not thrilled about being by myself all the time.



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03 Oct 2012, 8:50 pm

salem44dream wrote:

For whatever it's worth, I think the occult is sometimes a coping mechanism. I know it has been for me -- I get obsessed with recording my dreams when I'm going through particular difficult times of loneliness. But "occult" to me is not something bad, it's more like a hobby that helps me get by the tough times.



occult is more of fantasy world and it provides escapism to a hurt and lonely mind
its like marijauna and takes you into a trance of happiness.
It keeps you away from reality.
Many of the predictions of tarot and palmistry leads nowhere
I was misleaded by all this stuff.
For many years it kept showing me i would be a renowed and famous person someday.
And here i am sitting in a dark lonely room after waking up from my fantasy world.

Now that i work for a corporate i have noticed people are rarely inclined towards this fantasy
and illusionary world of occult they are all practical and logical they spend time reading
new age magazines and competitive newsletters which provides information rather then escapism.

Wanted to add that if you notice lifes of famous fantasy writers they suffered from mental issues and loneliness.
Alice in wonderland writer was drug user, Eckhart Tolle suffered from serious depression. So also
J.K. Rowling and Enid Blyton or Virginia Woolfe.

But rarely you will notice any serious social writer suffering from mental issues.


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04 Oct 2012, 10:23 am

lostgirl1986 wrote:
I certainly think that it can. When I lived in my basement apartment after I quit my job I didn't go outside a lot and I swear, I was slowly going insane. I shook whenever I had to leave my apartment.

Kinda strange. I don't have a job for 5 years (and no friends at all) but i feel ok, even if i would feel much better if i would have a nice person to talk with.

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Even if we behave like other animals (remember, scientifically, we're animals, too), we're still humans.

And I don't appreciate being called arrogant.

Sorry i made you arrogant but the ending (period = end of discussion?) sounded a bit arrogant to me.

I didn't said we're not humans, i was just wondering if the lack of socialization and a human model, couldn't led to a behaviour similar to that of animals. Like the intense fearing which is not a healthy and normal human emotion and has its roots in our past when we were all hunters and struggled to survive but now it isn't really useful anymore (just in some very dangerous situations) and it is more of an irrational reaction. (like fearing to leave your house when outside aren't any wild animals anymore, even if some people behave that way)



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04 Oct 2012, 9:20 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
Without education our behaviour wouldn't be very different than that of animals. Period (lol, such arrogance)


Humans are animals, by biological classification.



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05 Oct 2012, 1:36 am

starkid wrote:
Humans are animals, by biological classification.


Yes, i know. And? I don't see where I said the opposite.

I was talking strictly about the behavior, had no sense to mention this.

(offtopic)



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05 Oct 2012, 2:57 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
Yes, i know. And? I don't see where I said the opposite.

I was talking strictly about the behavior, had no sense to mention this.



It was not said; it was implied by comparing human behavior to animal behavior. Human behavior is just a type of animal behavior, not something totally different.